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Date:         Wed, 20 Feb 2002 16:18:39 -0500
Reply-To:     Mark Casazza <Mark.Casazza@domino1.cuny.edu>
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From:         Mark Casazza <Mark.Casazza@domino1.cuny.edu>
Subject:      Re: Large Data sets crash SPSS
Comments: To: "Raffe, Sydelle, SSA" <DRaffe@co.alameda.ca.us>
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The old(er) versions had a default maximum logical record length of 1024 bytes for raw data, but this limit could easily be bypassed by using file handles and specifying a longer logical record length.

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-----Original Message----- From: SPSSX(r) Discussion [mailto:SPSSX-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU]On Behalf Of Raffe, Sydelle, SSA Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 2:41 PM To: SPSSX-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Large Data sets crash SPSS

I'll toss in my two cents -- are the record lengths very long? In earlier versions of SPSS, the program had a limit which I ran into. I don't know if the newer versions have record length limits -- anyone know?

-----Original Message----- From: Art Kendall [mailto:Arthur.Kendall@VERIZON.NET] Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 3:13 PM To: Subject: Re: Large Data sets crash SPSS

What is the size of the input file? Is the input file ASCII with a long record? Is the data set already an SPSS system file?

Do you get anything in the listing (.spo) file? Does crash mean that you get a lot of errors on the listing? That SPSS freezes? The SPSS exits with an error message? That the whole system locks up and needs to be rebooted?

Try to find out what your users mean by large, many variables, many cases, trying to do crosstabs where the variables have thousands of values?

<file> <display data info> to get a description of the file <file> <options> <general> and see where the temporary directory is. Does that disk have at least 4 times the size of the system file available if you want to sort it? E.g., if your input file is 2G you need to have 8G available for a sort.

hth Art Art@DrKendall.org Bruce Como wrote:

> Hello... > > Forgive my ignorance. I'm an IT person trying to solve a problem with > SPSS (base). > > I have two users and 3 machines. Two machines are Win 98se, the other > is Win2k. All 3 machines have 128 Megs of RAM and at least 300 Mhz > processor. They are running version 10 of the software. > > When a user uses a large data set (I can't tell you how large is > *large*) it causes SPSS to crash. This "large" data set is not always > the same data set. > > I have installed the 10.1 patch (I haven't installed the 10.1.4 patch > yet) but to no avail. > > Despite my vague description, can anyone offer me some words of wisdom, > or a fix? > > Thanks for your time. > Bruce > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic Games > http://sports.yahoo.com


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