Date:         Thu, 28 Feb 2002 15:01:27 -0800
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From:         "William W. Viergever" <wwvierg@ATTGLOBAL.NET>
Subject:      Fwd: Was: Speeding up Analyses on PCs -- NOW, it's OT: Thorin
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>At 01:45 PM 2/28/2002 -0800, Schwarz, Barry A wrote:
>>It's from The Hobbit.  Thorin doesn't appear in the trilogy and by the time
>>the events in the trilogy occur Bilbo is too experienced to make such an
>>outburst.

Barry's spot on:

>'So began a battle that none had expected; and it was called the Battle of
>Five Armies, and it was very terrible. Upon one side were the Goblins and
>the wild Wolves, and upon the other were Elves and Men and Dwarves.'
>    The Hobbit 17 The Clouds Burst
>
>Since the ending of the War of the Dwarves and Orcs, and the Dwarves'
>ultimate victory at the Battle of Nanduhirion, the orcs had nursed a
>hatred of that race. In the year III 2941, the year of Bilbo Baggin's
>journey to the Lonely Mountain, those events lay more than one hundred and
>forty years in the past. Travelling through the Misty Mountains, Bilbo,
>Thorin and their companions were captured by a colony of the orcs that
>infested those regions. With Gandalf's help they escaped, but not before
>killing several of their captors, including their leader the Great Goblin.
>
>The loss of the Great Goblin at the hands of a band of Dwarves inflamed
>the bitter memories of the orcs' War with the Dwarves. Under the command
>of Bolg, whose own father Azog had been killed at Nanduhirion, all the
>armies of the orcs of the Misty Mountains, and their allies the wolves and
>bats, began to gather and plan their revenge.
>
>Oblivious to these events, Bilbo and the Dwarves continued their journey
>eastward. They achieved their quest to recover Erebor, but in doing so
>they earned the anger of Thranduil, and indirectly caused the destruction
>of Lake-town. Thranduil's Wood-elves joined with the Lake-men, and they
>marched north to claim a share of Smaug's treasure in recompense. In
>response, Thorin called on his cousin Dáin, who set out with his own army
>from the Iron Hills.
>
>So the scene was set for a confrontation between the Wood-elves and
>Lake-men on the one side, and the Dwarves of Thorin and Dáin on the other.
>Already the first arrows had been shot when a dark cloud was seen coming
>out of the north - the bats that heralded the orc-armies of Bolg. The
>Elves, Men and Dwarves quickly forgot their differences in the face of
>this new threat, and battle was joined on the slopes of Erebor and the
>valley beneath. The battle was ferocious, and as it raged, it was joined
>by others - Eagles out of the Misty Mountains, and even Beorn himself in
>the shape of a monstrous bear.
>
>By nightfall the orcs were defeated, but not without great loss. Thorin
>himself was slain, making a bold attack against the bodyguard of Bolg, and
>with him fell his young nephews Fíli and Kíli. Bolg was dead, too, crushed
>by Beorn, and the goblins of the northern mountains were scattered or
>destroyed.

see:

http://www.glyphweb.com/arda/default.htm

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