Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2002 11:03:56 -0700
Reply-To: "Stanley A. Gorodenski" <vvgsgor@DE.STATE.AZ.US>
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From: "Stanley A. Gorodenski" <vvgsgor@DE.STATE.AZ.US>
Subject: Re: OT: RIP: Many absent friends this year...
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I could respond, but I have no intention of turning this into a debate
of personal opinions even if it is titled OT. I have made my points,
David has made his, and you have made yours. I will leave it at that.
See you in Orlando.
Stan
"William W. Viergever" wrote:
> Stan:
>
> I think what David was getting at was what my Grandmother (RIP) used
> to preach to me:
>
> "If you don't have something nice to say about someone, then don't say
> it."
>
> As for your opinions, they of course *are* yours, however, you might
> think twice about sharing 'em.
>
> Regards
>
>
> P.S. To me, your comment: "Could it be that the alternative is true,
> that some are too sensitive" is a bit like David Bowie's ... "puttin
> out fire w/ gasoline".
>
> Later
>
>
>
> At 08:23 AM 3/29/2002 -0700, Stanley A. Gorodenski wrote:
>
>> David,
>> I almost deleted your message, thinking it was more spam. If I had I
>> would
>> not be responding now.
>>
>> It was not my intent to deride the sensitivities of those who
>> appreciated
>> his comedy, and I hope no one takes offense at my comment - I do not
>> wish to
>> alienate potential acquaintances or friends. I am just expressing my
>> opinion
>> of Dudley Moore's comedy. Normally, if someone has an opinion, and I
>> have a
>> different one, I will express it (I have become more outspoken over
>> the
>> years - a sign of old age?). Now, if Dudley Moore was a personal
>> friend or a
>> relative to someone, in another context (a person to person
>> situation) I
>> would not say what I said. However, this is not the situation. If
>> some feel
>> this is an insensitivity on my part, then maybe it is. Could it be
>> that the
>> alternative is true, that some are too sensitive, given that Dudley
>> Moore's
>> only contact (if you want to call it that) with them was through
>> television
>> or a movie? If someone said Jack Benny wasn't a good comedian and he
>> missed
>> his calling by not playing the part of a waiter, I would not feel
>> offended.
>> I believe he has passed away also.
>>
>> Again, it was not my intent to deride other's sensitivities. My
>> apologies if
>> others took a personal offense.
>> Stan
>>
>> "DKV-J Consultancies (Totalise)" wrote:
>>
>> > Humour is a different emotion to each of us Stan, and I think it's
>>
>> > probably likely that there are many people on SAS/L who did
>> appreciate
>> > Dudley's work, just as you don't. It would however be a shame to
>> deride
>> > the sensitivities of those who did value his work, and will miss
>> his
>> > passing. Sadly, his work has been non existent since 1999, just
>> as
>> > Spike Milligan had done little in public for many years.
>> >
>> > I feel sad for the passing of Milton Berle, although the only film
>> of
>> > his I can recall at all clearly is 'mad, mad world', where I feel
>> every
>> > actor in the film was gracefully and effortlessly upstaged by
>> Spencer
>> > Tracy. Not being the best is not a putdown for any other actor,
>> as the
>> > Academy awards prove year after year. In any case, I know of
>> Milton's
>> > success as a comedian, and feel that I have not had the
>> opportunity to
>> > appreciate his comedy as much as others.
>> >
>> > We are getting older, as someone remarked, and I am surprised to
>> realise
>> > how much time has passed since some of my favourite performances
>> were
>> > first recorded. My set of 6 classic Jack Benny episodes were
>> recorded
>> > some forty years ago, as the youthfulness of Kirk Douglas and Fred
>>
>> > MacMurray testify in that wonderful jam session they played
>> together.
>> > If I could find any more, I'd treasure them, on PAL or NTSC. The
>> > average viewer may not know it, but he truly was a talented
>> fiddler and
>> > made his early living on Vaudeville that way, as that horrid
>> repetitive
>> > Kreutzer arpeggio study that became his theme suggests.
>> >
>> > Every Christmas my family toast absent friends. Each year someone
>> else
>> > is foremost in our minds, and sometimes we have different people
>> in
>> > mind, but we share an appreciation of each other's sense of loss.
>> I
>> > think there might be just such a toast at a certain SUGI dinner
>> this
>> > year.
>> >
>> > Kind regards
>> >
>> > David
>> >
>> > Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 09:34:05 -0700
>> > From: "Stanley A. Gorodenski" <vvgsgor@DE.STATE.AZ.US>
>> > Subject: Re: OT: RIP: Milton Berle
>> >
>> > I'm afraid I do not feel the same about Dudley Moore as some. I
>> feel he
>> > missed his calling by not playing the parts of taxi drivers, or
>> two bit
>> > grubby chislers in large cities. It's anyone's opinion, and this
>> is
>> > mine.
>> > Milton Berle, though, was really great, in the same class as Sid
>> Ceaser
>> > (who is still living, I believe) and Jack Benny.
>> > Stan
>
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