Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2002 16:09:25 -0600
Reply-To: Jack Hamilton <JackHamilton@FIRSTHEALTH.COM>
Sender: "SAS(r) Discussion" <SAS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Jack Hamilton <JackHamilton@FIRSTHEALTH.COM>
Subject: Re: Banning HTML-Spam ?
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I'd be surprised if requiring a sighted assistant would meet section 508
requirements; see:
http://www.access-board.gov/sec508/508standards.htm
Those requirements probably don't apply to SAS-L or the University of
Georgia, but they weren't promulgated because someone had too much time
on their hands. They're there for a good reason, and trying to follow
them is a good idea, even if you don't have to.
--
JackHamilton@FirstHealth.com
Manager, Technical Development
METRICS Department, First Health
West Sacramento, California USA
>>> "Wainwright, Andrea" <andrea.wainwright@capitalone.com> 10/16/2002
2:30 PM >>>
No, but if you have some word pop up on the screen that they have to
enter
in, I would assume that they have someone assisting them.
My point is, if you make it as simple as "copy this word in the blank:
SAS", a lot of robots know that trick and will get around it. The
robot
can't pick the word out of the jpg.
-----Original Message-----
From: Jack Hamilton [mailto:JackHamilton@firsthealth.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 5:19 PM
To: Wainwright, Andrea; SAS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
Subject: Re: Banning HTML-Spam ?
Are you proposing that we not allow blind people to subscribe?
--
JackHamilton@FirstHealth.com
Manager, Technical Development
METRICS Department, First Health
West Sacramento, California USA
>>> "Wainwright, Andrea" <andrea.wainwright@CAPITALONE.COM> 10/16/2002
12:11 PM >>>
I have seen a similar techniques used, and there is one thing to do.
make sure that a robot can't read the word and fill it in.
What this page did was put up a jpg with the image of the word, with
some
lines drawn through it.
The people could easily read it and answer back what the word was, but
the
robots couldn't scan it and figure out what it was.
-----Original Message-----
From: Goldman, Brad (AT-Atlanta) [mailto:Brad.Goldman@AUTOTRADER.COM]
Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 2:13 PM
To: SAS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
Subject: Re: Banning HTML-Spam ?
Under this scheme, the idea shouldn't be to quiz users, but simply to
make
it harder to for spammers to automate a system. A much simpler query
would
work just as well: "What is your name?" Any answer would be
considered a
"correct" response. Or display a random character on the screen and
ask
users to repeat it. Anything that gets in the way of automatic
systems
subscribing, spamming, and unsubscribing. As long as it takes actual
human
effort to subscribe, it's a plus.
Though this would not address the usenet mirror issue at all.
Brad
> That would eliminate both complete beginners and advanced users.
The
> complete beginners won't know about data steps and procs, and the
> advanced users will know that you can write a complete and useful
SAS
> program which uses neither data steps nor procs.
>
> Hint: macros.
>
> >>> "WIELKI Andre" <wielki@INED.FR> 10/15/2002 9:07 AM >>>
> And to validate a subscriber
> one easy question could be asked more like
> What are the two steps in a sas program?
> Data and proc
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