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Date:         Sun, 3 Nov 2002 07:56:09 -0800
Reply-To:     Gregor <gregor.gorjanc@BFRO.UNI-LJ.SI>
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From:         Gregor <gregor.gorjanc@BFRO.UNI-LJ.SI>
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Subject:      The negative of the Hessian is not positive definite
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Hello!

I've posted this mail last week but nobody helped me. So I will try my luck again.

I'm peroforming generalized linear model analysis with GENMOD procedure in SAS package. My data (measurements from comet assay) is supposed to come from gamma distribution. I've used identity link instead of inverse which is the default canonical). Model contained concentration (4 levels). I have two different datasets which come from two similar experiments. I tried to model this effect with class as well with regression. It worked fine with class for both datasets, but I had problems with fitting regression in second dataset. The warning message (WARNING: The negative of the Hessian is not positive finite....) is produced. I'm sending the log and basic statistics bellow.

Can anyone help me. Gregor

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206 proc genmod data=brezE; 207 model tm1_olive = conc / dist=gamma link=id type3 wald; 208 run;

NOTE: Algorithm converged. NOTE: The scale parameter was estimated by maximum likelihood. NOTE: PROCEDURE GENMOD used: real time 3.07 seconds cpu time 0.11 seconds

209 proc genmod data=zE; 210 model tm1_olive = conc / dist=gamma link=id type3 wald; 211 run;

WARNING: The negative of the Hessian is not positive definite. The convergence is questionable. WARNING: The procedure is continuing but the validity of the model fit is questionable. WARNING: The specified model did not converge. WARNING: Negative of Hessian not positive definite. NOTE: The scale parameter was estimated by maximum likelihood. NOTE: PROCEDURE GENMOD used: real time 3.57 seconds cpu time 0.05 seconds

The MEANS Procedure

Analysis Variable : tm1_olive

N Mean Std Dev Minimum Maximum 403 0.3853605 0.3139503 0.000100000 1.9701000

The MEANS Procedure

Analysis Variable : tm1_olive

N conc Obs N Mean Std Dev Min Max 0 100 100 0.2057000 0.1388431 0.0001000 0.600100 10 100 100 0.3119000 0.2313438 0.000100 1.140100 50 100 100 0.3837000 0.2216218 0.03010 1.020100 100 103 103 0.6327214 0.4140142 0.000100 1.970100

With regrads, Gregor


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