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Date:         Wed, 18 Dec 2002 17:27:47 +0100
Reply-To:     Jim Groeneveld <J.Groeneveld@ITGROUPS.COM>
Sender:       "SAS(r) Discussion" <SAS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From:         Jim Groeneveld <J.Groeneveld@ITGROUPS.COM>
Subject:      Re: Stat/Transfer vs. DBMS Copy
Comments: To: Henry Feldman <hfeldman@CONCEPTUAL.COM>
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All right Henry,

Understood and accepted. I must have misinterpreted the pricing philosofy of DBMS/copy and I sincerely hope the conversion features to remain availiable to the community for reasonable, comparable prices. Enjoy your life, your hobbies, you are quite right in deciding to stop once; I would want to do something different as well if I now could. Thanks for your developments and your replies.

Regards - Jim. -- Y. (Jim) Groeneveld, MSc IMRO TRAMARKO tel. +31 412 407 070 senior statist./data man. P.O. Box 1 fax. +31 412 407 080 J.Groeneveld@ITGroups.com 5350 AA BERGHEM, NL www.imrotramarko.com

I think I master my computer, sometimes I seem to be its slave.

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> -----Original Message----- > From: Henry Feldman [mailto:hfeldman@CONCEPTUAL.COM] > Sent: 18 December 2002 17:12 > To: SAS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Subject: Re: Stat/Transfer vs. DBMS Copy > > > At 04:26 PM 12/18/02 +0100, you wrote: > >Hi Henry, > > > >I know you have created the wonderful DBMS/copy (and > related) software. I > >have great respect for you and your efforts and I am an > admirer of the > >DBMS/copy package, though I only occasionally need to use it > (we bought a > >single user version some 2 years ago). > > Thank you very much. > > >But I regret, that SI has got its > >hands on it, both conceptually and financially. Keeping some > (partially) > >competitive and competing piece of software independent IMHO > would be better > >for customers. > > I disagree. > > For one thing, every few users were using DBMS/Analyst. > According to my > sales guy, very, very few sales were made because of the existence of > DBMS/Analyst. People bought DBMS/COPY to move data between > the various > products they used. I can assure you that if there was a > huge ground swell > of support (read that as buying the program) because > DBMS/COPY represented > an alternative to buying Base/SAS, I probably would have kept > the program. > > Second, I will admit right here that I was bored working on > DBMS/COPY. I > know it's a wonderful program and I'm very proud of it. But I was > bored. I've been working on DBMS/COPY since 1988. Been > there, done that > and rewritten it for Windows 3.1, Windows 95 and X-Windows. > I felt I had > nothing else to say. DataFlux on the other hand is very > excited about the > program and personally, an excited company that might be > owned by SAS is > better than a bored competitor. Anyway I've seen the SAS's > internal list > of competitors and I wasn't on it! > > >The new DataFlux DBMS/copy program may have no time limit in > >it (like SAS has with its SETINIT), but licensing it makes > it officially > >illegal to use it after the licensing period, while buying > it gives the > >right to use it until the end of time. > > I've just gotten verification from DataFlux. Your statement above IS > TOTALLY INCORRECT. > > The software comes with a perpetual license and maintenance > is an option. > > > >Henry, I hope you may stay involved with the DBMS/copy > project for yet a > >long time. > > I have great pride of developership. I'll always be here. > I'm helping > DataFlux with the tough technical questions. > > Look, life is a journey. I want to take a slightly different path > now. I'm working with other developers enhancing the main > SAS program and > I'm going to start graduate school in the theatre department > at University > of Houston. I've made sure DBMS/COPY has a good home. > (Probably a better > home than if I kept it myself.) > > Henry Feldman >


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