Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 17:27:47 +0100
Reply-To: Jim Groeneveld <J.Groeneveld@ITGROUPS.COM>
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From: Jim Groeneveld <J.Groeneveld@ITGROUPS.COM>
Subject: Re: Stat/Transfer vs. DBMS Copy
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All right Henry,
Understood and accepted. I must have misinterpreted the pricing philosofy of
DBMS/copy and I sincerely hope the conversion features to remain availiable
to the community for reasonable, comparable prices. Enjoy your life, your
hobbies, you are quite right in deciding to stop once; I would want to do
something different as well if I now could. Thanks for your developments and
Regards - Jim.
Y. (Jim) Groeneveld, MSc IMRO TRAMARKO tel. +31 412 407 070
senior statist./data man. P.O. Box 1 fax. +31 412 407 080
J.Groeneveld@ITGroups.com 5350 AA BERGHEM, NL www.imrotramarko.com
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Henry Feldman [mailto:hfeldman@CONCEPTUAL.COM]
> Sent: 18 December 2002 17:12
> To: SAS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
> Subject: Re: Stat/Transfer vs. DBMS Copy
> At 04:26 PM 12/18/02 +0100, you wrote:
> >Hi Henry,
> >I know you have created the wonderful DBMS/copy (and
> related) software. I
> >have great respect for you and your efforts and I am an
> admirer of the
> >DBMS/copy package, though I only occasionally need to use it
> (we bought a
> >single user version some 2 years ago).
> Thank you very much.
> >But I regret, that SI has got its
> >hands on it, both conceptually and financially. Keeping some
> >competitive and competing piece of software independent IMHO
> would be better
> >for customers.
> I disagree.
> For one thing, every few users were using DBMS/Analyst.
> According to my
> sales guy, very, very few sales were made because of the existence of
> DBMS/Analyst. People bought DBMS/COPY to move data between
> the various
> products they used. I can assure you that if there was a
> huge ground swell
> of support (read that as buying the program) because
> DBMS/COPY represented
> an alternative to buying Base/SAS, I probably would have kept
> the program.
> Second, I will admit right here that I was bored working on
> DBMS/COPY. I
> know it's a wonderful program and I'm very proud of it. But I was
> bored. I've been working on DBMS/COPY since 1988. Been
> there, done that
> and rewritten it for Windows 3.1, Windows 95 and X-Windows.
> I felt I had
> nothing else to say. DataFlux on the other hand is very
> excited about the
> program and personally, an excited company that might be
> owned by SAS is
> better than a bored competitor. Anyway I've seen the SAS's
> internal list
> of competitors and I wasn't on it!
> >The new DataFlux DBMS/copy program may have no time limit in
> >it (like SAS has with its SETINIT), but licensing it makes
> it officially
> >illegal to use it after the licensing period, while buying
> it gives the
> >right to use it until the end of time.
> I've just gotten verification from DataFlux. Your statement above IS
> TOTALLY INCORRECT.
> The software comes with a perpetual license and maintenance
> is an option.
> >Henry, I hope you may stay involved with the DBMS/copy
> project for yet a
> >long time.
> I have great pride of developership. I'll always be here.
> I'm helping
> DataFlux with the tough technical questions.
> Look, life is a journey. I want to take a slightly different path
> now. I'm working with other developers enhancing the main
> SAS program and
> I'm going to start graduate school in the theatre department
> at University
> of Houston. I've made sure DBMS/COPY has a good home.
> (Probably a better
> home than if I kept it myself.)
> Henry Feldman