But is Clintrial a PC product? I've seen it on VAXes, but never on PC's. But I haven't worked everywhere.

And it may be what MicroSoft is trying to move to, but the key word there is "trying." I don't think they are going to be very successful.

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-----Original Message----- From: Jim Groeneveld [mailto:J.Groeneveld@ITGroups.com] Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 10:39 AM To: 'John J Genzano, III'; SAS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: RE: SAS Pricing ?

Hi John,

I don't think so. The principle of software licenses becomes more and more common. Another example: recently (starting 2002?) Phase Forward's (previously Clinsoft/Domain Pharma/BBN) Clintrial changed from a buyable product with an optional (but common and very high) yearly maintenance support into a licensed product with support for (immensely high) yearly license fees.

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> -----Original Message----- > From: John J Genzano, III [mailto:jgenzano@GENZANO.COM] > Sent: 27 January 2003 16:23 > To: SAS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Subject: Re: SAS Pricing ? > > > As far as I know, SAS is the ONLY PC product that requires annual > payments to keep the product working. > > > John J Genzano, III > Principal Consultant > Genzano Software Consulting > 610-212-6111 > 609-822-0211 > SAS Certified Professional, V6 > > > Men occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of them pick > themselves up and hurry off as if nothing ever happened. -- Winston > Churchill > > ______________________________________________________________ > __________ > _____ > Earning $100,000 a year is just as easy as earning $15,000 > when you know > how! > www.quickinfo247.com/7663993 > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: SAS(r) Discussion [mailto:SAS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of > Robert Stratton > Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 8:26 AM > To: SAS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Subject: Re: SAS Pricing ? > > > On the same subject, can anyone think of another product with a "First > year fee" penalty for purchasing? > > "Frank Ramage" <frank@framage.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message > news:<b116nh$f2q$1@newsg1.svr.pol.co.uk>... > > I too have found this. As you purchase more and more > licences the unit > price > > will decrease. > > > > They may of course attempt to sell you in bundles of 10 or > 50 say. But > when > > you buy more they will charge a First Year Fee, which would be much > higher > > then the Renewal Fee!!!!! > > > > > > HTH > > Frank > > "Walter Scott" <Walter.Scott@STATE.TN.US> wrote in message > > news:se31b2d0.032@state.tn.us... > > > sg, > > > I am only familiar with one 'licensing' scheme > (about to become > > familiar with a new one). I don't have a clue how many different > licensing > > schemes SI may have. Tthe scheme I'm familiar with is difficult to > describe > > in detail in a short message but essentially (on the average) each > copy of a > > given module that you add is cheaper than the previous copy > you added. > > > YMMV. > > > > > Walter > > > > > > > > > >>> sg <sasguy393@HOTMAIL.COM> 19:45:04 24-Jan-03 >>> > > > Can anyone shed some light on SAS' pricing policy? > > > > > > Say a company has purchased a 10 PC license and wants to purchase > one > > > more license. Will SAS sell the 11th license at the 'first' copy > > > price (as if the company did not have any licenses) or > will the next > > > license be sold at the per-unit 10 license price (total for 10 > divided > > > by 10)? >