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Date:         Tue, 1 Apr 2003 14:47:52 +0100
Reply-To:     Alastair Nicol <calaban.madness@BLUEYONDER.CO.UK>
Sender:       "SAS(r) Discussion" <SAS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From:         Alastair Nicol <calaban.madness@BLUEYONDER.CO.UK>
Subject:      Re: SPAM forcing unsubscription - proposed solution for Digests
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there are numerious mailing listing packages out there which do attempt to stop spam.

its a difficult nut to crack, but not impossible.

stopping all HTML formatted email would make a big dent in the "porn" spam. Most (all?) email clients support sending plain text emails.

its also very easy to scan incoming email and strip iframes/image links/jscript tags.

Its also very easy to match incoming email against known spam. This is a service we have purchased at work (very cheap). I'm also aware of an open source project to provide a database of signatures for all current spam, I dont know the current status (it only started up a couple of months ago)

LISTSERV could implement these simple changes on their servers and everyone would be a lot happier.

so either 1. hassle listserv to sort out spam/porn issues. 2. move sas-l to another host.

my 2p


Philip Gallagher wrote:

>w.r.t. Steve Albert's problem with pornographic spam in SAS-L Digests >evoking IT demands to unsubscribe: > >Considering Digests alone, there is a possible solution, that is, moderators. >Since there are usually only four to seven digests per day, perhaps it would >not be an insufferable burden for a brave soul(s) to volunteer to "moderate" >the Digests. No more than deleting obvious spam, followed by forwarding >to the Digest list. (I don't know the mechanism by which the LISTSERV >could implement this, but I don't know anything about the internal workings >of LISTSERVs anyway, but I know a clever programmer must be able to >devise a way for the LISTSERV to permit posting only by the moderator >to the Digest list. At least I hope there is an easy way.) >With a halfways decent editor (NOT AOL!) it should not usually take more >than two minutes per digest, and maybe even less. Hence, hopefully not >more than 15 minutes per day. > >Downsides: >1. The time of the brave moderator. >2. Additional delay before we see the digests. As it is, a whole string of >answers have often appeared somewhere down the line before we digest >readers ever see the first question. Still, if it would get thousands(?) of >Highly Esteemed IT Gurus off our backs, well, ... > >Phil Gallagher >Nantucket > >Error above: the text above should have read "Maximally Highly Esteemed >IT Gurus", at least as long as they rule our world. :-) > >

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