|Date: ||Fri, 23 May 2003 14:28:12 -0700|
|Reply-To: ||"William W. Viergever" <wwvierg@ATTGLOBAL.NET>|
|Sender: ||"SAS(r) Discussion" <SAS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>|
|From: ||"William W. Viergever" <wwvierg@ATTGLOBAL.NET>|
|Subject: ||Re: Non technical question|
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At 11:43 AM 05/23/2003 -0400, Nathaniel Wooding wrote:
>The "other" person was Jim Barr who, if memory serves, predated Jim
>Goodnight on the project.
>Actual developement work on SAS started around 1967 under an NIH grant to
>NCSU. When system reached what NIH considered to be a viable stage, the
>grant ended and the Institute was formed. As I recall, Jim Barr left the
>Institute around 1980.
Ahhhhhhhhhhh .... history .... like memories ..... PLUS .... it's FryeDay!!!
My $0.02 .... for the Inquiring Minds on the List:
The original version of SAS was written at NC State funded by a grant from
the US Southern Agricultural Experimental Station (or whatever it was called).
This was maybe 1970 and 1971. The PI on the project (although perhaps not
on the original application) was Jim Goodnight.
By the fall of 1972, SAS (Statistical Analysis System) was in use at NC
State and available to the wider community via the Triangle Universities
Computation Center, a computing consortium funded by NC State, UNC, and Duke.
There was some early documentation via a, maybe 30 page, TUCC memo. SAS
then consisted of the basic data step and language, SAS datasets, and procs.
There were maybe at most 8-10 procedures, including the ones that
eventually became GLM and PLOT.
Sometime in 1972 NC State published the white 3/4 inch thick SAS manual,
with "Statistical Analysis System" on the cover. That manual, republished
and modified several times, held until the SAS 76 manual was published.
SAS then was written then in a mixture of IBM assembly language, FORTRAN,
and PL/I; maybe 1/3 in each with the data step and SAS supervisor in
assembly and the procs in the other two languages. Don't quote me on the
proportions though <g>
SAS was actually available once for free, b/c it was "public domain" as are
all US government-funded things; NC State had the right to charge some
reasonable processing charge to distribute it (like under $100?)
.... so when did Eric Raymond write "The Cathedral and the Bazaar"? <g>
In fact, even after Goodnight, Barr, Sall, and Helwig quit State and formed
SAS Institute (IIRC, in a small office on Hillsborough Street in Raleigh),
NC State continued to distribute the 1972 version of SAS for that small fee
for some years.
So flash forward some 30 years. I live in Sacramento, CA, and I have a
friend who is a Sr. VP w/ Pannatoni Development (big, national, real estate
development & construction firm) who since our kids started school together
years ago would frequently ask me "Now just what do you do?".
Then, a couple of years ago, he's on the road doing stuff out of state. We
run into each other at a school function and we're talking and I mention
I'd just got back from a SUGI which I was attending now regulary b/c I had
become a Quallity Partner, had got certified, etc.
"What's a SUGI?" he asks; so I tell him.
He goes, "Oh!! Goodnight's company!!".
I about flip.
Turns out he'd been hanging out in North Carolina for months doing big deals.
No longer am I perceived as an ex-surf rat who wears shorts and sandals all
days; now I'm a VIP <vbg>
In fact, our daughters just graduated from high school this week, and at
the baccalaureate mass & dinner, he asked this time "So how's Goodnight?" <g>
.... ahhhhhh, as is sand through an hourglass, so are the days are lives, eh?
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