Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 15:20:33 -0400
Reply-To: "Michael L. Davis" <michael@BASSETTCONSULTING.COM>
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From: "Michael L. Davis" <michael@BASSETTCONSULTING.COM>
Subject: Re: JCL and SAS
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Hello Patrick and other SAS-L Friends,
One other detail that might be helpful. For a client to start a SAS
session on a host via SAS/CONNECT, SAS/CONNECT must be licensed and
installed on both the client and host computers.
- Michael "Mad Doggy" Davis
At 11:41 AM 6/18/2003 -0700, Patrick.F.O'Neill@KP.ORG wrote:
>Michael and SAS-L._all_
>Thanks for this gentle correction, and it opens up new lines of thought
>I'll be trying to rsubmit from a PC to other hosts without SAS/SHARE.
>"Michael L. Davis" <michael@BASSETTCONSULTING.COM>
>Sent by: "SAS(r) Discussion" <SAS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
>06/18/2003 10:57 AM
>Please respond to "Michael L. Davis"
> To: SAS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
> Subject: Re: JCL and SAS
>I think Patrick may be confused on an important feature of SAS/CONNECT. It
>has little or nothing to do with SAS/SHARE (at least directly). When a
>client (e.g., a personal computer) signs on, a spawner program on the host
>(e.g., a mainframe) starts a new SAS session to which the client
>connects. I've used SAS/CONNECT to submit work to Windows, Unix and
>mainframe hosts where SAS/SHARE was not available.
>The SAS session on the host is unique to that SAS/CONNECT session. This
>unlike the SAS/SHARE server session which may communicate with multiple
>clients simultaneously. Unless the administrator has done some
>customization, there are no libraries allocated to the SAS/CONNECT session
>on the host other than the traditional SASUSER, SASHELP, and WORK librefs.
>- Michael "Mad Doggy" Davis
>At 08:58 AM 6/18/2003 -0700, Patrick.F.O'Neill@KP.ORG wrote:
> >Dear Yanal,
> >You have received some great answers about mainframe resources, classes,
> >and policies. Let me add my beginner's $.02.
> >Using SAS/Connect from the PC to the mainframe relies on there being a
> >SAS/SHARE server running on the mainframe. When you do "sigon" from the
> >PC, an **interactive** SAS session is opened by SAS/SHARE. The code you
> >then "rsubmit" is handled in the interactive session, with all the
> >freedoms or limitations that implies.
> >Your informant focussed on the freedom from lining up in class A or G of
> >the interactive session, but you will run into limitations. On some
> >installations, interactive SAS cannot utilize data on tape. Also, the
> >default WORK space could be much smaller than that for batch jobs.
> >Your question, "to emulate what PC SAS does to run long jobs as a class A
> >this case?", implies that you do not have PC-SAS. You could open an
> >session directly on the mainframe and submit code from there. You would
> >no longer be in queue for class A. I suspect, though, that long jobs
> >submitted like this would be against the spirit, if not the letter, of
> >your installation's policies.
> >Yanal <fake@BYU.EDU>
> >Sent by: "SAS(r) Discussion" <SAS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
> >06/17/2003 10:57 PM
> >Please respond to Yanal
> > To: SAS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
> > cc:
> > Subject: JCL and SAS
> >I am using a s/390 ibm mainframe. To write sas programs and run them, we
> > use JCL. We classify the Job to be of class A if it takes less than
> >two cpu minutes to complete, and G if it takes longer than that.
> >A jobs execute immideatly, G jobs get in queue (which sometimes takes an
> >hour or two to start).
> >Someone told me that if you use PC sas to connect to the mainframe and
> >run your program it will run as a class A no matter how long the job
> >takes to execute. (using signon and then rsubmit on PC sas).
> >If that is the case, then there is a way (i think) to emulate what PC
> >SAS does in its communication with the mainframe to run jobs as class A.
> >does anyone know if there is some JCL code or some other setting that i
> >can use to emulate what PC SAS does to run long jobs as a class A in
> >this case?
Michael L. Davis
Bassett Consulting Services, Inc.
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North Haven CT 06473-3712