Sigh,

This is sad news indeed.

It just encourages bad practices further.

Worse yet I will now have to fight with my students in order to get them to do it right. ("Why did you count off for that? That's the way SPSS does it so it has to be right!")

I hope SPSS comes to its senses soon.

Michael

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----- Original Message ----- From: David Hitchin <D.H.Hitchin@sussex.ac.uk> Date: Tuesday, September 2, 2003 9:01 am Subject: Bad news about SPSS 12.0

> I learn from > <" target="l">http://www.spss.com/spssbi/spss/brochures.htm> > that SPSS 12.0 will include "3-D effects for pie and bar charts". > > Is there an honest statistician in his or her right mind who would > recommend these? > > There seems to be very strong case for arguing that everything > non-essential added to a plot makes it harder to read. Perhaps these > gimmicks could be useful when embarrassing information has to be > displayed,and some way has to be found to make it hard to read. > > David Hitchin >