Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 09:04:47 -0400
Reply-To: "Michael L. Davis" <michael@BASSETTCONSULTING.COM>
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From: "Michael L. Davis" <michael@BASSETTCONSULTING.COM>
Subject: Re: SAS programmer vs. manager
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Hello Richard and other SAS-L friends,
There are two possibilities. The first possibility is that your friend's
manager(s) are biased and not looking at your friend's abilities
fairly. It may be necessary for him to transfer to another part of the his
current organization or change organizations to be eligible for promotion
and management roles.
The other major possibility is that your friend does not exhibit all of the
skills (e.g., verbal and written communication) that his firm's management
seeks in supervisory positions. I don't have any quick solutions for
solving these kinds of problems. Besides, those solutions are probably a
non-SAS-L topic.
Several years ago, I realized that I preferred creating SAS programs more
than the management role. Hence, I made the switch from corporate
employment to independent consulting. My point in mentioning this is that
moving into management does not necessarily achieve greater happiness and
satisfied personal goals.
- Michael "Mad Doggy" Davis
At 01:58 AM 10/22/2003 +0000, Richard Liu <kataliu@EARTHLINK.NET> wrote:
>Hi,
>
>I just talked to my friends over the phone.
>
>He is now a marketer with strong SAS capability in a marketing group in a
>banking industry.
>Moreover, he graduated from a famous marketing graduate school as well.
>
>However, his colleagues who don't know SAS well were promoted as some kind
>of leads and he wasn't.
>And the reason he was told was modeler or SAS programmer should just be
>quiet and usually hasn't capability to manage people.
>
>I don't know if it is right or wrong. But is it a common stereotype for
>"strong SAS" people?
>
>Don't laugh at me. Does that mean people should not show their SAS ability
>or will be just labeled as "programmers"?
Michael L. Davis
Vice President
Bassett Consulting Services, Inc.
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North Haven CT 06473-3712
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