Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 11:02:04 -0500
Reply-To: "Richard A. DeVenezia" <radevenz@IX.NETCOM.COM>
Sender: "SAS(r) Discussion" <SAS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: "Richard A. DeVenezia" <radevenz@IX.NETCOM.COM>
Subject: Re: SAS/AF Windows Contextual Help
"Francesco" <firstname.lastname@example.org> wrote in message
> Hi... I'm having a problem using SAS/AF 8.2 under MS Windows (2000).
> I have created and compiled a Windows help file, named downApp.chm. I
> have set the helploc option in the config file and set downApp.chm as
> the default help file for my application (help attribute of _frame_ is
> helploc://downApp.chm). This works fine and if I press F1 or invoke
> the _help() method of _frame_ the help file displays correctly...
> The application contains various objects, 2 of them being table
> viewers; I use these for extended selection. Each table viewer has its
> own page in downApp.chm, so I would like to display this by using the
> contextual help of the frame. I set the help attribute of one of the
> table viewers to helploc://downApp.chm::/uwFields.htm and the _frame_
> attribute showContextHelp to Yes. In run mode this creates a button
> with a question mark, so that if I click the button and then the table
> viewer, I'd like to see helploc://downApp.chm::/uwFields.htm, but
> nothing happens... not even error message or anything else.
> Has anyone done this before? Can anyone help, please?
> Thanks in advance for your help, Francesco
The 'What's this' question mark icon appears in the title bar only when the
frame .type is dialog, if frame.type is 'Standard', there is no icon,
however F1 will open the chm _and_ the what's this mouse cursor will
I don't really understand the bifurcation to dialog and normal windows,
probably some MS thing rooted back to win1.0. (According to some 'standard'
dialogs are not resizable, which is a real pain in the a**; especially when
the dialog is designed for 640x480 and I run at 1600x1200)
For dialogs, I've found that if the chm file in question is not found, there
will be no obvious warning. All you get is 'ERROR: No help is available.'
in the status bar of the SAS session window. Nothing in the log, no
annoying can't find dialog.
Note: sometimes the message portion of the status bar is 'hidden' due to the
current directory portion of the status bar being all the way to the left.
Drag the splitter to the right if the directory name is way off to the left.
For standard, I found that ERROR: No help is available appears in the log
when .help is non-existent.
I'm not sure how SAS kicks off the chm file... does it fork off a 'hh.exe
<value-of-object.help>' ? does it use winapi implicitly ? (we certainly
could use winapi explicitly via SASCBTBL and MODULEN as a very last resort)
Consider the chm
containing three pages
From the windows command prompt this command will open a specific page
> hh mk:@MSITStore:c:\temp\new folder\help.chm::/Listbox1.html
note that you can replace spaces in the chm filename with %20 if you want.
This is nice, but if you execute multiple HH's from in a SAS session you get
multiple help windows.
So it seems you really need to use
HWND WINAPI HtmlHelp(HWND hwndCaller, LPCTSTR pszFile, UINT uCommand,
hwndCaller is the HWND of calling window
pszFile is the CHM file name
uCommand is equal to HH_DISPLAY_TEXT_POPUP
dwData is the address of a HH_POPUP structure we will use to give the
ActiveX the parameters it needs to display the text we want.
(copied from http://www.codeproject.com/winhelp/cshelp.asp)
Going back to .help
does not work, I do get a htmlhelp window, but it has yadayada about This
page cannot be displayed.
What does work ? How about .help set to
Yup, it works... well sort of. The page appears in the default browser, the
same as if you ran:
iexplore mk:@MSITStore:c:\temp\new folder\help.chm::/Listbox1.html
, not in a htmlhelp managed window; and you get one window per help
You could fall back to WinHelp if you want to simply display a context pop
up (as opposed to a web based help). And your own 'context help' icon in
the upper right of the frame, override the onClick of things having
contextual help, in override check if context help is active and if so,
perform a WinHelp ('HELP_CONTEXTPOPUP', 'myHelpFile.hlp',
WinHelp() is documented in publication SAS Companion for Windows.
msg = WinHelp("HELP_HELPONHELP");
WinHelp will not open CHMs. Hey SAS, where is the HtmlHelp() function ?
a very long url
If it ever does work as it should, the problem is most likely in the
construct of the .help value. It's just that the obvious constructs ain't
working as expected.
Richard A. DeVenezia