Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 08:41:17 -0800
Reply-To: Jeff Voeller <Jeff.Voeller@MCI.COM>
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From: Jeff Voeller <Jeff.Voeller@MCI.COM>
Subject: Re: RE : Whither SAS/AF?
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I suspect that many of us still primarily doing mainframe work will let go
of SAS/AF when you pry it from our cold, dead hands!
From: SAS(r) Discussion [mailto:SAS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of Michael
Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2004 6:30 AM
Subject: RE : Whither SAS/AF?
Hello Michael, Stéphane, and other SAS-L Friends,
Just so there is no confusion, SAS/AF is supported in SAS 9 and for the
foreseeable future. What SAS R&D has said at NESUG and SUGI is that no new
development is scheduled for SAS/AF, which is quite a different thing than
So the question remains, "Should you develop in SAS/AF?" My own opinion is
that if you are in a shop with a SAS/AF license and have folks that know and
are comfortable with SAS/AF, don't abruptly stop. For deployment stability
and convenience, I prefer the SAS/IntrNet - SCL combination over widely
distributed SAS/AF Frames.
However, if your shop does not now use SAS/AF, then perhaps it would be wise
to look more seriously at the alternatives, webAF being among them.
- Michael "Mad Doggy" Davis
> From: Datametric <datametric@CLUB-INTERNET.FR>
> Date: 2004/11/27 Sat AM 08:25:06 EST
> To: SAS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
> Subject: RE : Whither SAS/AF?
> SAS, like others, is 'fashion conscious', perharps 'fashion victim'. The
> way to developp front end users apps is based on Java and thin client.
> So, sas/af is no longer supported by sas with the v9, ie. No developpment
> have done for this product by sas team.
> The french SAS folks explained to me that the old sas/af apps work again
> recommend to go on web/af as soon as possible : convert old apps and think
> the new apps with.
> Anyway, my clients plan to maintain sas/af (no migration) and have no idea
> about the future, because web/af isn't free. At present, we quietly think
> and prepare test about the migration to the v9.
> My clients don't expect to use vb, c#... As a 'best of breed' solution.
> plan to use the low cost solution, I think, so with SAS/AF.
> -----Message d'origine-----
> De : SAS(r) Discussion [mailto:SAS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] De la part de
> Michael Katz
> Envoyé : samedi 27 novembre 2004 06:56
> À : SAS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
> Objet : Whither SAS/AF?
> I've seen a few comments on SAS-L recently to the effect that SAS
> seems unenthusiastic about SAS/AF and considers it a "legacy product." I
> haven't used SAS/AF in several years, and never did very much with it.
> However, some colleagues of mine have built some rather ambitious
> applications with it recently.
> Does SI have plans to push an alternative method for producing front-ends
> SAS applications? Do they want everyone to convert to WebAF and forget
> stand-alone apps? Is SAS/AF going the way of SAS/CALC, where, just as SI
> accepted the ascendancy of Excel, they'll expect developers to use a
> non-SAS product such as VB, Java, or C# as a front-end to a SAS back-end?
> -- TMK --