| Date: | Thu, 30 Jun 2005 13:54:32 +0100 |
| Reply-To: | Marco van de Ven <mvenus82@yahoo.co.uk> |
| Sender: | "SPSSX(r) Discussion" <SPSSX-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU> |
| From: | Marco van de Ven <mvenus82@yahoo.co.uk> |
| Subject: | Re: Mann-Whitney U-test |
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| In-Reply-To: | <f6e944136e8f9f908e529d2fb236f884@herts.ac.uk> |
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Dear all,
Thank you for providing me with the assumptions of the
Mann-Whitney U test. Yet, the responses I got were
contradictory; one of you said that distributions do
not matter, while the other one said they do...
Let me give you the design I want to apply it to:
It contains two groups with large, yet unequal, sample
sizes; group one: 297, group two: 165. Variances are
unequal, but the distributions (when looking at them
with the bare eye) are roughly equal.
Do you think I can safely apply it here? In order to
make the testing more accurate, I opted for the Monte
Carlo approach of the MW test; with 10.000 times
resampling. I hope you agree with me that this is a
solid way of testing the differences between these
independent samples.
Thanks in advance,
Marco
--- kornbrot <d.e.kornbrot@herts.ac.uk> wrote:
> be very careful
>
> it is a requirement of Mann-Whitney that both
> populations have SAME
> distribution
> i will send you reference later
>
> this implies that MW is ok for unbounded measures
> like reaction time or
> income that tend to have similar skew and variance
> for both
> populations. that's waht it was designed for
> if skew is different in 2 populations MW is flawed -
> particulalry if
> skews are in opposite direction
>
> MW is fatally flawed for ANY scale that has a small
> discrete number of
> possible responses, like Likert scales or number of
> positive or
> correct responses form small set. this is because
> high means have
> negtaive skews and low means positive skews. it is
> also not v. good if
> variances are different
>
> don't shoot the messenger
>
> diana
> On 30 Jun 2005, at 12:21, Marco van de Ven wrote:
>
> > Hello everyone,
> >
> > I have a question concerning the Mann-Whitney
> U-Test
> > for two independent samples...
> >
> > Does anyone know what the assumptions are for this
> > test?I looked on the internet, but found
> contradictory
> > information. Please add source if you can.
> >
> > Thanks in advance,
> >
> > Marco
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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