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Date:         Tue, 21 Mar 2006 11:03:49 -0500
Reply-To:     Jing Quan <JXQUAN@SALISBURY.EDU>
Sender:       "SAS(r) Discussion" <SAS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From:         Jing Quan <JXQUAN@SALISBURY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: HLM?
Comments: To: Flom@ndri.org
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This is a follow-up to my previous post. What I try to accomplish here is to see if variable z should be included in the estimation, which may be a moderator. I think I can use the t-ratio to test the significance of c2, but some literature also suggests to test whether the increase in adjusted R-square after including z is significant and suggested to use HLM. But I don't see how HLM can accomplish this.

Thank you Peter for your email. I'm new to this list and did not know exactly what to ask. I hope this one would clarify what I try to do here.

Best, Jim

Jing "Jim" Quan, Ph.D. Dept of Info and Decision Sciences Salisbury University

>>> "Peter Flom" <Flom@ndri.org> 2006-3-21 10:51 >>> >>> Jing Quan <JXQUAN@SALISBURY.EDU> 3/21/2006 10:26:01 am >>> wrote <<< I try to test the following two models:

y = a1 + b1x + e1 y = a2 + b2x + c2z + e2

to see if the R-square for the 2nd equation is significantly larger than that for the 1st one. If so, z should be included.

HLM is supposed to do this. But after reading all the literature so far, none of them seems to address this question. They all talk about level 1 vs. level 2 and fixed vs. random. >>>

I'm not at all sure why you are using anything from HLM. Why not just PROC GLM? or REG?

Of course, since you don't say why you are doing what you are doing, any advice that anyone gives could be totally wrong. But, based on what you've said, GLM or REG should do it.

why don't you write back to SAS-L (not just to me) saying what you are trying to do, and then maybe someone can provide more cogent advice

HTH

Peter

Peter L. Flom, PhD Assistant Director, Statistics and Data Analysis Core Center for Drug Use and HIV Research National Development and Research Institutes 71 W. 23rd St http://cduhr.ndri.org www.peterflom.com New York, NY 10010 (212) 845-4485 (voice) (917) 438-0894 (fax)


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