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Date:         Tue, 18 Jul 2006 07:43:21 +1000
Reply-To:     Simon Freidin <simonpf@unimelb.edu.au>
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From:         Simon Freidin <simonpf@unimelb.edu.au>
Subject:      Re: SV: For those in need of running SAS using an SPSS file
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For a comparison of the strengths and weaknesses of SAS, SPSS and STATA see the UCLA report

http://www.ats.ucla.edu/stat/technicalreports/Number1/ ucla_ATSstat_tr1_1.0.pdf

cheers Simon

On 18/07/2006, at 5:52 AM, Joseph Teitelman temp2 wrote:

> That's an obnoxious question; I used SAS as a student first in a > sociology Ph.D. program and then in a statistics graduate program. > As a graduate student studying statistics, I was able to obtain SAS > free of charge, and have continued to use the licensed SAS program > since completing my statistics degree. > > It is true that my employer is not licensing SAS; rather my > employer is licensing SPSS only. > > And if you must know, the vast majority of statistics graduate > programs prefer SAS to SPSS. In fact, they tend to support SAS, > SPLUS, and Stata, but tend not to support SPSS. > > The question is what does this fact say about SPSS when compared to > SAS, S-PLUS, and Stata. > > Typically SPSS is used in graduate level social science courses, such > as sociology. > > Given the above, what can you conclude about SPSS? > > joe teitelman > > > >>>> Jason Burke <burke.jasonm@gmail.com> 7/14/2006 7:46 PM >>> > If your employer forces you to use SPSS, who pays the SAS license fees > every year? > > > On 7/15/06, Oliver, Richard <roliver@spss.com> wrote: >> The SPSS facility for writing SAS-format data files includes the >> ability to write value labels to a SAS formats file. This has been >> true for quite a few years (it's not new in SPSS 14). >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: SPSSX(r) Discussion [mailto:SPSSX-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On >> Behalf Of Staffan Lindberg >> Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 12:44 PM >> To: SPSSX-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >> Subject: SV: For those in need of running SAS using an SPSS file >> >> Hi! >> >> Being in a somewhat similar situation (although a SPSS user) I >> often find myself having to convert SPSS-files to SAS datasets for >> SAS-people. The easiest solution (at least for me) is to use a >> conversion program. I use DBMSCOPY but there are others >> (StatTransfer among others). With DMBSCOPY I can even convert SPSS >> Value Labels to SAS Formats. This is accomplished by DMBSCOPY >> generating a SAS program that you can run in SAS thus getting the >> Formats. >> >> An even faster way is to to use the ability of SPSS 14 (and >> perhaps earlier) to write SAS files in different formats (although >> I don't know if the Value labels are converted). >> >> best >> >> Staffan Lindberg >> National Institute of Public Health >> Sweden >> >> -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- >> Från: SPSSX(r) Discussion [mailto:SPSSX-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] För >> Joseph Teitelman temp2 >> Skickat: den 14 juli 2006 18:19 >> Till: SPSSX-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >> Ämne: For those in need of running SAS using an SPSS file >> >> >> For the past 2 months, I've been forced to learn how to use SPSS, >> since my employer uses SPSS solely. >> >> For those interested in analyzing data in SAS created as an SPSS >> *.sav file, the following steps are required. >> >> Note that I discovered this information from the very popular >> "Little SAS Book." >> >> 1) first save your spss file as a portable file * it has the >> extension por. >> 2) use the following SAS syntax: >> a) LIBNAME myspss SPSS 'c:\Myspsslib\spss.por'; >> b) to use the print procedure in SAS type >> PROC PRINT DATA = myspss._FIRST_; >> c) to list the contents of the spss file (the variables and their >> attributes >> type: PROC CONTENTS DATA = myspss._FIRST_; >> >> d) to convert the spss portable file to a SAS data set, type the >> following: >> >> DATA 'c:\MySASlib\spsspor'; >> SET myspss._FIRST_; >> >> >> e) the output will contain a list of observations/ records grouped >> by each variable in the data set. >> >> The next procedure * Proc contents will produce the variable #, >> the variable name, the type of variable (num or char, e.g.), >> Length of each variable, position of each variable, format of each >> variable. and label for each variable. >> >> Obviously, the information I provided is not intended for those >> who prefer to use SPSS rather than SAS. It's for those like me, >> who were forced to learn SPSS for some reason, such as a job, but >> would like to analyze the data using SAS. >> >> I hope this proves helpful for those of you in the same shoes as >> myself. >> >> I am not advocating the use of SAS over SPSS; rather I am merely >> showing that for those who prefer SAS over SPSS, it's easy to read >> an SPSS file using SAS, after saving the SPSS file as a portable >> document. >> >> The portable file will have the extension "por".


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