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Date:         Sun, 20 Aug 2006 17:14:42 -0400
Reply-To:     Jim Groeneveld <jim2stat@YAHOO.CO.UK>
Sender:       "SAS(r) Discussion" <SAS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From:         Jim Groeneveld <jim2stat@YAHOO.CO.UK>
Subject:      Re: F-tests and t-tests to chi-square
Comments: To: Ted Barker <ted.barker@GMAIL.COM>

Hi Ted,

It is not entirely clear what you want to do, but it is my impression that you are thinking along impossible or rather unjustified ways. All kinds of tests, whether it be F-tests, t-tests, CHiSq and many more compute their own statistics. These are more or less independent of each other and can not be "converted" into one another (only the t and F value have some mathematical correspondence). Each statistic is then interpreted in terms of probability and the only comparison that can be done between statistics is in terms of significance (the so called p-value).

So, to make a long story short, I don't think you can "convert" F and t values into CHiSq and back.

Regards - Jim. -- Jim Groeneveld, Netherlands Statistician, SAS consultant home.hccnet.nl/jim.groeneveld

On Sun, 20 Aug 2006 13:13:53 -0400, Ted Barker <ted.barker@GMAIL.COM> wrote:

>This may be a simple question, but I do not have a book that explicitly >deals with the topic. > >I am trying to convert F-tests and t-tests to chi-square. > >I need to combine multiple imputed datasets where ANOVAs are the mode of >analysis. Most software, such as PROC MIANANLYZE and NORM, appear geared >towards regression models. I want to find a solution for ANOVAs, particurly >for t-tests via LSMEANS, underlying significant interactions (or main >effects) for categorical variables. > >I noticed Paul Allison has a COMBCHI macro for SAS. I was thinking a >potential solution would be to output F-tests and t-tests of interest from, >let's say, 5 imputed models, convert to CHISQ, then aggregate with Dr. >Allison's MACRO, then convert back to the f tests and t-tests. This way I >might even be able to compute effect size statstistics from the combined F >and t's. > >Any thoughts on this? Any suggestions would be great, particularly in regard >to F and t to Chi square. > >Best regards, > >Ted > >-- >Ted Barker, Ph.D >Department of Psychology >University of Montreal


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