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Date:         Fri, 20 Apr 2007 13:30:29 -0500
Reply-To:     "Swank, Paul R" <Paul.R.Swank@UTH.TMC.EDU>
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From:         "Swank, Paul R" <Paul.R.Swank@UTH.TMC.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Kendall coefficient of concordance
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however, nothing is going to work very well when most of the responses fall into one cell. Kappa, which compares agreement against chance agreement will not be very high here because the chance of agreement is very high when most of the reponses are in one cell.

Paul R. Swank, Ph.D. Professor Director of Reseach Children's Learning Institute University of Texas Health Science Center-Houston

-----Original Message----- From: SAS(r) Discussion [mailto:SAS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of Peter Flom Sent: Friday, April 20, 2007 1:07 PM To: SAS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Kendall coefficient of concordance

>From: Michelle Secic <consult@SECICSTATS.COM> wrote I'm looking at >concordance of two raters on 3 possible findings and the 3 x 3 >crosstable of the findings have lots of zeros and the Kendall stat via >%magree results in 0.5 even though almost all the data (n>250) fall in >a single cell of agreement. Please let me know if you know of any >references that talk about unreliabile Kendell stat with lots of zeros,

>or something like that. I'm trying to find a reference for this... >Thanks so much!!!

Kendall's coefficient isn't unreliable, it just answers one particular question. If you want to aks a different question, then you want a different statistic. There are a vast number of statistics to measure agreement between raters, most notably Cohen's kappa: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cohen's_kappa

This, and many other measures, are discussed in many books on nonparametric statistics. e.g.

Agresti: Categorical Data Analysis Fleiss: Statistical Methods for Rates and Proportions

You can also search Lex Jansen's page: http://www.lexjansen.com/sugi/ for keywords like 'agreement'.

HTH

Peter


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