Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 14:17:50 -0700
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Subject: Books on SPSS (was RE: Sample Data Files - Where can I find them?)
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No single book is going to satisfy the requirements of every user of SPSS
because people have widely varying backgrounds and needs. Fermin wanted
something to transfer existing knowledge of SAS syntax to SPSS. So this was
not the book for him.
Some folks will find that with the exception of getting data into the shape
required, a GUI will do just fine for them. Others will be looking for data
analysis knowledge and basic statistical techniques--the data look this, the
hypotheses are these, so what's the best way to test them and what to look
for in the output. They will need books that are specifically related to
those domains with sample syntax and discussions of domain-specific results.
It's a shame that there aren't books like the Sage monographs for them.
Others will be looking for cookbook recipes for various kinds of reports
that just describe numerically and graphically the data.
Although I haven't seen the book in question, if it is all Fermin says it
is, then that really speaks poorly for the design of the user interface,
dialogs, and accompanying help for them. Shame on me and all my fellow user
interface designers :-(
My recommendation is to talk to people who have the same kinds of jobs or
research interests that you have and get their advice.
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Ornelas, Fermin
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2007 1:41 PM
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Subject: Re: Sample Data Files - Where can I find them?
I did not want to start a discussion that could become a burden, brought by
my own wording. But I was looking for something with SPSS syntax and good
theoretical explanation. Instead the book just emphasizes the point and
click approach. I went through a lot of problems to get it just to be
disappointed. I was expecting something like Handbook for Statistical
Analysis with SAS by Everitt, but no it was just a lot of verbiage on how to
navigate the SPSS menu.
Hope this satisfies your question.
Fermin Ornelas, Ph.D.
Management Analyst III, AZ DES
1789 W. Jefferson Street
Phoenix, AZ 85032
Tel: (602) 542-5639
E-mail: FerminOrnelas@azdes.gov
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Matthew Reeder
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2007 1:24 PM
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Subject: Re: Sample Data Files - Where can I find them?
Admittedly, I'm not familiar with the title, but I'm always fascinated when
a book evokes a harsh review. What was wrong with it?
"Ornelas, Fermin" <FerminOrnelas@azdes.gov> wrote: With all the respect,
please do not recommend this book, it is horrendous.
Fermin Ornelas, Ph.D.
Management Analyst III, AZ DES
1789 W. Jefferson Street
Phoenix, AZ 85032
Tel: (602) 542-5639
E-mail: FerminOrnelas@azdes.gov
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leah quinlivan
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2007 11:44 AM
To: SPSSX-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
Subject: Re: Sample Data Files - Where can I find them?
Hi,
If your going to buy a book, the Andy Field "Discovering Statistics using
SPSS" is brilliant, has practice files, very clear and interesting.
Best of luck,
Leah
On 28/11/2007, Donna Alden-Bugden wrote:
>
> I am VERY new to SPSS and I wanted to practice with some data files. Does
> anyone know where to get some data files. I found some .sps files on our
> Stats Canada website, but I don't seem to know what to do with them. They
> don't import as regular ascii files...they have a lot of other information
> in them, like coding.
> Thanks and sorry for my ignorance....I really need to buy the SPSS for
> Dummy's book...
>
> Donna
>
>
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