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Date:         Wed, 28 Nov 2007 14:17:50 -0700
Reply-To:     ViAnn Beadle <vab88011@gmail.com>
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From:         ViAnn Beadle <vab88011@gmail.com>
Subject:      Books on SPSS (was RE: Sample Data Files - Where can I find them?)
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No single book is going to satisfy the requirements of every user of SPSS because people have widely varying backgrounds and needs. Fermin wanted something to transfer existing knowledge of SAS syntax to SPSS. So this was not the book for him.

Some folks will find that with the exception of getting data into the shape required, a GUI will do just fine for them. Others will be looking for data analysis knowledge and basic statistical techniques--the data look this, the hypotheses are these, so what's the best way to test them and what to look for in the output. They will need books that are specifically related to those domains with sample syntax and discussions of domain-specific results. It's a shame that there aren't books like the Sage monographs for them. Others will be looking for cookbook recipes for various kinds of reports that just describe numerically and graphically the data.

Although I haven't seen the book in question, if it is all Fermin says it is, then that really speaks poorly for the design of the user interface, dialogs, and accompanying help for them. Shame on me and all my fellow user interface designers :-(

My recommendation is to talk to people who have the same kinds of jobs or research interests that you have and get their advice.

-----Original Message----- From: SPSSX(r) Discussion [mailto:SPSSX-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of Ornelas, Fermin Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2007 1:41 PM To: SPSSX-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Sample Data Files - Where can I find them?

I did not want to start a discussion that could become a burden, brought by my own wording. But I was looking for something with SPSS syntax and good theoretical explanation. Instead the book just emphasizes the point and click approach. I went through a lot of problems to get it just to be disappointed. I was expecting something like Handbook for Statistical Analysis with SAS by Everitt, but no it was just a lot of verbiage on how to navigate the SPSS menu.

Hope this satisfies your question.

Fermin Ornelas, Ph.D. Management Analyst III, AZ DES 1789 W. Jefferson Street Phoenix, AZ 85032 Tel: (602) 542-5639 E-mail: FerminOrnelas@azdes.gov

-----Original Message----- From: SPSSX(r) Discussion [mailto:SPSSX-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of Matthew Reeder Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2007 1:24 PM To: SPSSX-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Sample Data Files - Where can I find them?

Admittedly, I'm not familiar with the title, but I'm always fascinated when a book evokes a harsh review. What was wrong with it?

"Ornelas, Fermin" <FerminOrnelas@azdes.gov> wrote: With all the respect, please do not recommend this book, it is horrendous.

Fermin Ornelas, Ph.D. Management Analyst III, AZ DES 1789 W. Jefferson Street Phoenix, AZ 85032 Tel: (602) 542-5639 E-mail: FerminOrnelas@azdes.gov

-----Original Message----- From: SPSSX(r) Discussion [mailto:SPSSX-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of leah quinlivan Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2007 11:44 AM To: SPSSX-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Sample Data Files - Where can I find them?

Hi,

If your going to buy a book, the Andy Field "Discovering Statistics using SPSS" is brilliant, has practice files, very clear and interesting.

Best of luck,

Leah

On 28/11/2007, Donna Alden-Bugden wrote: > > I am VERY new to SPSS and I wanted to practice with some data files. Does > anyone know where to get some data files. I found some .sps files on our > Stats Canada website, but I don't seem to know what to do with them. They > don't import as regular ascii files...they have a lot of other information > in them, like coding. > Thanks and sorry for my ignorance....I really need to buy the SPSS for > Dummy's book... > > Donna > > > ********************************************************** > Donna Alden-Bugden, RN(EP), MN > Primary Care Nurse Practitioner > Winnipeg, Manitoba > http://www.NPCanada.ca > Donna@Alden-Bugden.ca > ********************************************************** > > ===================== > To manage your subscription to SPSSX-L, send a message to > LISTSERV@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (not to SPSSX-L), with no body text except the > command. To leave the list, send the command > SIGNOFF SPSSX-L > For a list of commands to manage subscriptions, send the command > INFO REFCARD >

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