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Date:         Wed, 7 Nov 2007 08:20:10 -0700
Reply-To:     ViAnn Beadle <vab88011@gmail.com>
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From:         ViAnn Beadle <vab88011@gmail.com>
Subject:      Re: Problems with SPSS 15? - Or is it 16?
Comments: To: Steve Runfeldt <steve@schwartzresearch.com>
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Where do you save your files? If you are running Vista and are trying to save your files in the SPSS location, Vista is silently putting them elsewhere into a Virtual Store location since Program Files is verboten for anything but set-up applications to write to.

SPSS can retrieve the file using the Open dialog your more recently used file location; but if you try to find the file using a Windows explorer window, it won't be able to find it. The location where the file really is depends upon your user name. It's a very long path so it's easier to find it with the Vista search function on the start menu.

The best approach is to set the default location of saved files in Edit>Options.

-----Original Message----- From: SPSSX(r) Discussion [mailto:SPSSX-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of Steve Runfeldt Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2007 7:46 AM To: SPSSX-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Problems with SPSS 15? - Or is it 16?

Charlotte,

I just now saw your message and the responses. You say that you just upgraded a few weeks ago. Could you be using SPSS 16 and not 15? I also upgraded (to v.16) a few weeks ago and I have been having similar problems. I have been working on one file for over a week and I have had to go back and restore that file three times. I finally named it "gooddata.sps". Yesterday morning it was missing again. I restored it and made several copies. I wonder if when I am saving it at the end of a session, and then quit SPSS before it is completely saved, perhaps it gets deleted.

I have also been having problems with memory when looking at output files, and especially pivot tables. In one case I ran a Factor followed by a Regression for six different groups. I made notes on certain results. I saved the output file. But, I was unable to export or print the results and SPSS crashed. When I opened the output file the next day, only one of the six group results was there. The Factor Scores were correctly saved from the day before, but the output file appeared to have been truncated. I reran the Regression on the six groups and got exactly the same results - at least they matched my hand written notes.

I have gotten no help from SPSS support. I was told that because I did not purchase a support package they did not have to look into my problem. But this is a new version, on the street for only a few weeks, so I would think that they would want to know about problems like this.

I am running SPSS 16 on a new ThinkPad with tons of memory. I understand that V16 uses Java for the reporting function. Perhaps Java is not letting go of memory. I have resolved this by running analyses in smaller batches, saving my data files every time I create a new variable, making copies of my data files, and saving the output files in smaller groups as well. With the smaller files I can export to Excel with no problem. I have a project with about 50 variables in six categories. Instead of running Oneway on all of them at once, I have to run six Oneway analyses (Maybe we should call it "Sixway".)

By the way, when you export to Excel, you have to unmerge all of the cells. SPSS output to Excel masks some data cells by merging them with other cells, so it appears that some results are missing. You have to Select All, then Format Cells and uncheck Merge Cells - just to see all of your results. I don't know why SPSS insists on merging cells that should not be merged.

I would love to hear back from SPSS on some of this.

Good luck.

Steve

Steve Runfeldt Senior Account Executive/ Quantitative Research Schwartz Consulting Partners 5027 W. Laurel Street Tampa, FL 33607 813-207-0332 X 233 (work) 813-431-1840 (mobile) steve@schwartzresearch.com http://schwartzconsulting.com/

From: "Charlotte" <charl_bean@YAHOO.CO.UK> To: <SPSSX-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU> Sent: 06 November, 2007 4:41 PM Subject: Problems with SPSS 15?

> Hi there, > > I was just wondering if anybody is experiencing any problems (bugs?) > with SPSS 15? I have been using it for a few weeks now and keep > experiencing a situation in which it suddenly won't open files. If I > then make a second attempt to open the file, it opens, but as an > 'unknown' file - i.e. the name is removed. > > Furthermore, on two separate occasions I have had two files > overwritten with two completely different files! Luckily I had the > files backed up elsewhere. > > Anyone else experiencing things like this? I'm regretting having > upgraded to version 15! > > Thanks, > > Charlotte

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