The alogroithms used in various HLM packages differ somewhat so some variation in results is to be expected. That is certainly true of MIXED and HLM. But you must also ensure that your code specified analyses that were truly identical. I ran a test of SPSS MIXED and HLM some time ago and came up with nearly identical results (to several decimal places) for that particular data set.

Most of my analyses, however, involve binary outcomes - unfortunately SPSS MIXED cannot handle binary outcomes.

Dennis Deck, PhD RMC Research Corporation 111 SW Columbia Street, Suite 1200 Portland, Oregon 97201-5843 voice: 503-223-8248 x715 voice: 800-788-1887 x715 fax: 503-223-8248 ddeck@rmccorp.com

-----Original Message----- From: Neda Faregh [mailto:nfaregh@rogers.com] Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 5:25 AM Subject: Re: HLM-SPSS Tutorial

Kizzy, I don't know of an online HLM tutorial for SPSS, but would caution you against using HLM in SPSS. I have done HLM analyses in recent past first with SPSS and then with HLM 6 softwre. The results are different. This difference is not minor either, you will draw different conclusions (opposite in my case) from the results of each software. I do prefer HLM 6 and believe it to be the one that gives correct answers. There are a couple of books that deal with HLM in SPSS specifically. One is Leech, Barrett, and Morgan's SPSS for Intermediate statistics. The other is of course Norusis' SPSS 16.0 advanced statistical procedures companion. Of the two I much prefer Norusis' book.

Neda Carleton U.

-----Original Message----- From: SPSSX(r) Discussion [mailto:SPSSX-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of vlad simion Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 2:55 AM To: SPSSX-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: HLM-SPSS Tutorial

Hi Kizzy,

try this links:

http://www.ats.ucla.edu/stat/ http://www.ssicentral.com/hlm/examples.html

Hth, Vlad

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