Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 10:23:26 -0600
Reply-To: Alan Churchill <savian001@GMAIL.COM>
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From: Alan Churchill <savian001@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: OT : Friday SAS community Forum editing
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Ajay,
Let's review some stuff:
1. You violated terms of use. Sites evolve. I can't imagine they weren't there from the beginning but it doesn't matter much, IMO.
2. The servers are hosted by SAS Institute. They are run by others but content is managed. Yes, wikis have admins.
3. Recent changes clearly show that DonH removed the posting due to terms of use. Any edits Don did should have shown up in your email inbox attached to the wiki (standard wiki stuff).
4. Be very careful what you say regarding Don. I personally take great offence at it and many others will as well. Don Henderson provides a great deal of time and effort in support of the SAS Community and has done so for 30+ years. He is a legend in the SAS world and deserves (and receives) a tremendous amount of respect here.
I don't care how much you love WPS and hate SAS, I really don't. I wish WPS and SAS the best. However, don't go slinging insults when your lack of understanding of sasCommunity.org is the root of the issue.
Alan
Alan Churchill
Savian
www.savian.net
-----Original Message-----
From: SAS(r) Discussion [mailto:SAS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of ohri2007@GMAIL.COM
Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 10:03 AM
To: SAS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
Subject: Re: OT : Friday SAS community Forum editing
I am extremely sorry Steve. I thought the SAS community forum was for
SAS language users.....and I was told that it was independent from SAS
Inst. Also , on wikipedia, content gets deleted but you are told
reason for deletion as well as the editor who deleted it, and they
have multiple levels of editing.....
I also criticized the fact that the S com wiki had a very bad URL
system for blog posting..so I am not that surprised (I have commented
in the past that wikis are not used for communities anymore ., and
they are specialized open source software for forums, blogs )
but a bit disappointed in the stealthy cowardice of anonymous editing
by some aging loser .
On 8/22/08, Stephen McDaniel <stephen@stephenmcdaniel.us> wrote:
> Ajay,
>
> I would imagine someone posting about Open Office on the MS Office forum or
> SQL Server on the Oracle forum or .NET on the Java forum would receive a
> similar response/outcome- deletion. It's about SAS, not SAS competitors,
> which WPS is...
>
> While it may be useful, I can totally understand SAS or some SAS users being
> offended by a posting on WPS. I wouldn't have deleted it, but that's just
> me. Why don't you just send the entry to SAS-L where noone has such control
> and it will be forever on the Internet?
>
> Regards,
> Stephen
>
> On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 8:45 AM, ./ ADD NAME=Data _null_, <
> iebupdte@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> 2008-08-21T11:43:37 Donh (Talk | contribs) deleted
>> "User:Dstats/BlogEntry: 2008 August 21 10:29:09 EDT" (Violates the
>> Terms of Use for sasCommunity.org)
>>
>> Obviously you did not read the "Terms of Use...". I did not see your
>> contribution so I can't comment.
>>
>> So try again after reading the "Terms of Use...".
>>
>>
>> On 8/22/08, Ajay ohri <ohri2007@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > some one alerted me to the fact that somebody seems to have
>> >
>> > deleted the post I wrote to demonstrate WPS capability in SAS language
>> >
>> > and the wiki's incapability to have a sane url.
>> >
>> > (it apparently gives a URL with datetime stamp
>> >
>> http://www.sascommunity.org/wiki/User:Dstats/BlogEntry:_2008_August_21_10:29:09_EDT
>> > )
>> >
>> > This shows that its a SAS institute community forum not an independent
>> > community forum.or that there is no way to stop editing (this followed
>> after
>> > blow back on india 's performance in olympics emails ".
>> >
>> >
>> > unlike google knol (which gives u control of what license you want
>> content
>> > to be published or whether you allow editing or comments"
>> >
>> > or wikipedia that has a transparent system of editing "you know who
>> edited
>> > it"
>> >
>> >
>> > because i didn't even get a notification for that deletion.
>> >
>> > I dont know who deleted it, but I wish them luck ....you cant keep a
>> > good
>> > software down without staying down with them.....
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Ajay
>> > .
>> >
>> > and the community forum seem to have new lines like "
>> >
>> > Please note that all contributions to sasCommunity may be edited,
>> altered, or
>> > removed by other contributors. If you don't want your writing to be
>> edited
>> > mercilessly, then don't submit it here.
>> > You are also promising us that you wrote this yourself, or copied it
>> > from
>> a
>> > public domain or similar free resource (see
>> > Project:Copyrights<
>> http://www.sascommunity.org/wiki/sasCommunity:Copyrights>for
>> > details).
>> > *DO NOT SUBMIT COPYRIGHTED WORK WITHOUT PERMISSION!"
>> >
>> >
>> > how many community sites do you know of that threaten merciless editing
>> ??
>> > oh the merciless editing ..ah uh ahh ..it hurts
>> >
>> >
>> > *
>> >
>>
>
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Regards,
Ajay Ohri
http://tinyurl.com/liajayohri
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