Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 05:18:26 -0400
Reply-To: ben.powell@CLA.CO.UK
Sender: "SAS(r) Discussion" <SAS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: ben.powell@CLA.CO.UK
Subject: Re: Proc SPELL
Love it! Why is this so much more satisfying than word spell check?
Rgds
filename test url
'http://search.yahooapis.com/WebSearchService/V1/spellingSuggestion?
appid=YahooDemo&query=churcill' ;
data test;
infile test length=len;
input x $varying2000. len ;
put x=;
word=strip(tranwrd(scan(x,-3,"<"),"Result>",""));
if word^="";
drop x;
run;
On Thu, 28 Aug 2008 14:31:20 -0600, Alan Churchill <savian001@GMAIL.COM>
wrote:
>Here is an example spell/suggest web service. There are LOTS of them so
take
>your pick.
>
>http://search.yahooapis.com/WebSearchService/V1/spellingSuggestion?
appid=Yah
>ooDemo&query=madnna
>
>The web service Don and I did is pretty secure and, for a given client, can
>be made pretty bullet-proof. Web services are actually much easier to work
>with, normally, because they run on port 80 than other options.
>
>For web service consumption on the cheap today, how about the following SAS
>code:
>
>filename test url
>'http://search.yahooapis.com/WebSearchService/V1/spellingSuggestion?
appid=Ya
>hooDemo&query=madnna' ;
>
>data test;
> infile test length=len;
> input x $varying2000. len ;
> put x=;
>run;
>
>(this is quick and dirty to illustrate the concept)
>
>Not as efficient as what would be needed but it is a technology proof that
>works. There are LOADs of web services everywhere and some of it could be
>more complex than simply a spell checker.
>
>Alan
>
>Alan Churchill
>Savian
>www.savian.net
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: SAS(r) Discussion [mailto:SAS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of Don
>Henderson
>Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2008 12:47 PM
>To: SAS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
>Subject: Re: Proc SPELL
>
>Again, I think multiple items are being confused here.
>
>I agree on public spell checking. However, I thought earlier in this thread
>the issue was raised of using spell with a very custom distionary to check
>diagnosis codes. In that case, you would need to install/configure it in
all
>likelihood to control the contents of the list of valid terms/phrases.
>
>WRT web services from SAS, that is supposed coming in 9.2. I believe that
>PROC SOAP will be a generic facility and there will also be some specific
>things you can do with the EBI platform to package stored processes (aka
SAS
>code) as stored processes. Whether there will be a function interface is
>something I don't know the answer to.
>
>In the meantime, it is reasonably straigtforward to write web services
today
>using SAS code. Alan and I collaborated on a simple example for my SAS
Press
>book on the SAS/IntrNet Application Dispathcer. Check out the Chapter 21
>link at:
>
>http://www.hcsbi.com/IntrNetAppDev
>
>Regards,
>Don Henderson
>Author of the SAS Press book "Building Web Applications with SAS/IntrNet
(c):
>A Guide to the Application Dispatcher"
>SAS Pubs Site: http://tinyurl.com/2ypq62
>At sasCommunity.org: http://tinyurl.com/24amf9
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Jack Hamilton [mailto:jfh@alumni.stanford.org]
>> Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2008 2:29 PM
>> To: Don Henderson; sas-l@listserv.uga.edu
>> Subject: Re: [SAS-L] Proc SPELL
>>
>> I think Nat and his lunch partner wanted to use a public web
>> service for spell checking (if such a thing exists), rather
>> than setting up their own inside their firewall.
>>
>> If there's an open source spell check web service they could
>> install inside their firewall, this wouldn't be as big a problem.
>>
>> Is there a function interface to web services in SAS? E.g.,
>> could a data step do something like
>>
>> call webservice('http://spellchecker', words_to_check, return_code,
>> results);
>>
>> where the data step passes parameters to a web server and
>> gets back results, or are web services available only in more
>> specialized parts of SAS?
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, 28 Aug 2008 14:17:44 -0400, "Don Henderson"
>> <donaldjhenderson@HOTMAIL.COM> said:
>> > Nat,
>> >
>> > I believe that you are confusing a couple of separate items here.
>> >
>> > A web service can be secured. And it can even be limited to
>> only exist
>> > behind an organization's firewall. So access to the web
>> service and to
>> > the data sent to/from it can all take place within an
>> organization's
>> > network.
>> > This is absolutely no different that stored patient data in
>> a central
>> > database.
>> >
>> > The point behind web services is encapsulating all the
>> functionality
>> > and information in a single place that all the applications
>> that need
>> > it can share. That would include the logic as well as any
>> needed data
>> > (in this case the list of valid terms).
>> >
>> > There are any number of web services that can and should be
>> publicly
>> > available - like weather, maps, etc.
>> >
>> > There are also any number where access to them needs to be
>> controlled
>> > - for example due to HIPPA.
>> >
>> > Bottom line is that web services do not imply use of the public
>> > web/internet.
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> > donh
>> >
>> > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > From: SAS(r) Discussion [mailto:SAS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU]
>> On Behalf Of
>> > > Nat Wooding
>> > > Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2008 2:00 PM
>> > > To: SAS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
>> > > Subject: Re: Proc SPELL
>> > >
>> > > Alan
>> > >
>> > > I had lunch with someone who uses Spell and mentioned your
>> > > suggestion of using a web service. She processes medical data and
>> > > her company has very strong restrictions on web access.
>> > >
>> > > And, of course, would this work on a mainframe?
>> > >
>> > > Nat
>> > >
>> > > Nat Wooding
>> > > Environmental Specialist III
>> > > Dominion, Environmental Biology
>> > > 4111 Castlewood Rd
>> > > Richmond, VA 23234
>> > > Phone:804-271-5313, Fax: 804-271-2977
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Alan Churchill
>> > > <savian001@GMAIL.
>> > > COM>
>> > > To
>> > > Sent by: "SAS(r) SAS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
>> > > Discussion"
>> > > cc
>> > > <SAS-L@LISTSERV.U
>> > > GA.EDU>
>> > > Subject
>> > > Re: Proc SPELL
>> > >
>> > > 08/27/2008 10:38
>> > > AM
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Please respond to
>> > > Alan Churchill
>> > > <savian001@GMAIL.
>> > > COM>
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Web services have a security framework that will be pretty tight.
>> > >
>> > > For SAS coders, imagine a web service as a macro in the
>> sky but it
>> > > may or may not run SAS (or any other language).
>> > > Basically, a web service is a callable piece of code that
>> takes in
>> > > data and returns data.
>> > >
>> > > Here is some SAS pseudo-code to help:
>> > >
>> > > proc soap data=myCustomerDb out=withGPS;
>> > > call "http://www.savian.net/GetGpsCoordinates.aspx" ; run;
>> > >
>> > > proc soap data=withGPS out=withZipCodeData;
>> > > call "http://www.savian.net/GetZipData.aspx" ; run;
>> > >
>> > > The actual code will be different but that should provide a sense
>> > > for how web services work.
>> > >
>> > > Alan
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Alan Churchill
>> > > Savian
>> > > www.savian.net
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > From: SAS(r) Discussion [mailto:SAS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU]
>> On Behalf Of
>> > > Mary
>> > > Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2008 8:21 AM
>> > > To: SAS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
>> > > Subject: Re: Proc SPELL
>> > >
>> > > I would think that a web service would be a problem with medical
>> > > data in terms of confidentiality rules for HIPPA or NIH
>> grants; you
>> > > could't just upload to a web service something like a progress
>> > > report or operating room procedure summary. How do these web
>> > > services work, anyway?
>> > >
>> > > Given that I use Outlook Express for my SAS-L e-mail and
>> installing
>> > > Office
>> > > 2007 took away my spell-check (actually, it spell-checks now in
>> > > *French*; Microsoft knows it and its solution is "tough, go to
>> > > Vista"), now Proc Spell is of interest to me to check my e-mails
>> > > before sending them out, since I've usually got SAS open as well.
>> > >
>> > > -Mary
>> > > ----- Original Message -----
>> > > From: Chris T
>> > > To: SAS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
>> > > Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2008 8:50 AM
>> > > Subject: Re: Proc SPELL
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Except that's a case of using excessive technology just
>> because they
>> > > can when something already exists. I don't want to deal with
>> > > webservices. I want "proc spell in = aSASdataset out =
>> > > aSASdataset"!!
>> > >
>> > > I'm really just curious as to why they decided to not
>> update that
>> > > procedure, or at the very least provide documentation,
>> but I doubt
>> > > anyone at SAS support was around for v6 and has an answer. ;-)
>> > >
>> > > On Aug 27, 7:08 am, savian...@GMAIL.COM (Alan Churchill) wrote:
>> > > > Granted but a web service that allows a string array
>> upload and
>> > > index would
>> > > > accomplish the same thing, IMO.
>> > >
>> > >
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