Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 11:12:45 +0800
Reply-To: Alex Murphy <goladin@GMAIL.COM>
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From: Alex Murphy <goladin@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: An Open Source Clinical Reporting System?
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Well, I guess he wishes to make is free for us to use.
On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 10:56 AM, ajay ohri <firstname.lastname@example.org> wrote:
> Why are making it open source ? Don't you want to license it as Clinical
> Reporting System v 2.1 and so on.
> Licensing can help you become richer than you are.You can make more money
> especially from developing countries people.
> Also would love to know more on the part Indian part.
> --- On Sun, 9/21/08, RolandRB <rolandberry@HOTMAIL.COM> wrote:
> > From: RolandRB <rolandberry@HOTMAIL.COM>
> > Subject: Re: An Open Source Clinical Reporting System?
> > To: SAS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
> > Date: Sunday, September 21, 2008, 3:01 PM
> > On Sep 20, 5:23 pm, step...@STEPHENMCDANIEL.US (Stephen
> > McDaniel)
> > wrote:
> > > Hi Roland,
> > >
> > > Lots of ideas, not sure how helpful though...
> > >
> > > Couldn't you use the Freedom of Information Act to
> > request such datasets
> > > from the FDA? It's public record, may be a bit
> > hard to get it right, but
> > > should yield datasets from submissions I would
> > think...
> > >
> > > Also, have you tried author book sites for
> > pharma/medical data analysis
> > > books? There may be data there as well...
> > >
> > > Finally, it would seem to be in SAS's interest to
> > help you, maybe contact
> > > the SAS Drug Development solution team?
> > >
> > > Last shot- try the people at Oracle Clinical as they
> > might have a whole
> > > sample from training, etc.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Stephen
> > Hi Stephen, thanks for the suggestions. Ideally I would
> > like a
> > complete set of data in CDISC format (but sas datasets)
> > subsetted so
> > that I have say 5 patients in each treatment arm limited to
> > two
> > treatment arms and the complete set of data across all
> > domains such
> > that I can keep within the 1500 observation limit for any
> > sas dataset
> > as I have the Learning Edition only. Once I have suitable
> > CDISC style
> > datasets that I can link back to their demography data and
> > somebody
> > can give me the report templates then I can write the
> > macros to
> > produce the output. The macros will call my %unistats or
> > %npcttab
> > macros in most cases. I will then add them to my collection
> > of macros
> > and then people can download them and use them.
> > Nobody has to pay for the use of my macros if they choose
> > to use them
> > for free. The same goes for the Spectre (Clinical)
> > reporting system
> > (strictly speaking a "reporting engine"). I do
> > offer support
> > contracts, though, as I think it is very risky for people
> > to use my
> > software if they don't have support.
> > I wonder if there is anyone in India who can help me on the
> > CDISC
> > datasets side of things? Nearly half of all the hits on the
> > pages of
> > my web site come from India. That seems like a strangely
> > high
> > proportion but maybe it is not. There are, after all, a lot
> > of people
> > who live there and a lot of people who work on the software
> > side of
> > things. I am part Indian myself, as it happens, but I doubt
> > that has
> > any influence on who lands on my web pages.
> > Back to the subject matter in this thread I started, can
> > somebody tell
> > me why the pharmaceutical industry never went down the Open
> > Source
> > Clinical reporting system route? I was certainly expecting
> > it to.
> > Since they are all making submissions to the same bodies
> > and these
> > bodies are stressing the need for standardization then why
> > didn't the
> > efforts of the pharmaceutical companies evolve in the
> > direction of a
> > common Open Source clinical reporting system?