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Date:         Sun, 21 Sep 2008 19:56:59 -0700
Sender:       "SAS(r) Discussion" <SAS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From:         ajay ohri <ajayohri@YAHOO.COM>
Subject:      Re: An Open Source Clinical Reporting System?
Comments: To: RolandRB <rolandberry@HOTMAIL.COM>
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Why are making it open source ? Don't you want to license it as Clinical Reporting System v 2.1 and so on.

Licensing can help you become richer than you are.You can make more money especially from developing countries people.

Also would love to know more on the part Indian part.

--- On Sun, 9/21/08, RolandRB <rolandberry@HOTMAIL.COM> wrote:

> From: RolandRB <rolandberry@HOTMAIL.COM> > Subject: Re: An Open Source Clinical Reporting System? > To: SAS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Date: Sunday, September 21, 2008, 3:01 PM > On Sep 20, 5:23 pm, step...@STEPHENMCDANIEL.US (Stephen > McDaniel) > wrote: > > Hi Roland, > > > > Lots of ideas, not sure how helpful though... > > > > Couldn't you use the Freedom of Information Act to > request such datasets > > from the FDA? It's public record, may be a bit > hard to get it right, but > > should yield datasets from submissions I would > think... > > > > Also, have you tried author book sites for > pharma/medical data analysis > > books? There may be data there as well... > > > > Finally, it would seem to be in SAS's interest to > help you, maybe contact > > the SAS Drug Development solution team? > > > > Last shot- try the people at Oracle Clinical as they > might have a whole > > sample from training, etc. > > > > Regards, > > Stephen > > Hi Stephen, thanks for the suggestions. Ideally I would > like a > complete set of data in CDISC format (but sas datasets) > subsetted so > that I have say 5 patients in each treatment arm limited to > two > treatment arms and the complete set of data across all > domains such > that I can keep within the 1500 observation limit for any > sas dataset > as I have the Learning Edition only. Once I have suitable > CDISC style > datasets that I can link back to their demography data and > somebody > can give me the report templates then I can write the > macros to > produce the output. The macros will call my %unistats or > %npcttab > macros in most cases. I will then add them to my collection > of macros > and then people can download them and use them. > > Nobody has to pay for the use of my macros if they choose > to use them > for free. The same goes for the Spectre (Clinical) > reporting system > (strictly speaking a "reporting engine"). I do > offer support > contracts, though, as I think it is very risky for people > to use my > software if they don't have support. > > I wonder if there is anyone in India who can help me on the > CDISC > datasets side of things? Nearly half of all the hits on the > pages of > my web site come from India. That seems like a strangely > high > proportion but maybe it is not. There are, after all, a lot > of people > who live there and a lot of people who work on the software > side of > things. I am part Indian myself, as it happens, but I doubt > that has > any influence on who lands on my web pages. > > Back to the subject matter in this thread I started, can > somebody tell > me why the pharmaceutical industry never went down the Open > Source > Clinical reporting system route? I was certainly expecting > it to. > Since they are all making submissions to the same bodies > and these > bodies are stressing the need for standardization then why > didn't the > efforts of the pharmaceutical companies evolve in the > direction of a > common Open Source clinical reporting system?

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