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On Jan 26, 10:13 am, "Andrew Karp, Sierra Information Services"
<sfbay0...@aol.com> wrote:
> In a nutshell , "being paid on a W-2" means you have an employee/
> employer relationship with the entity that is paying you. If a
> recruiter says "I will pay you on a W-2," that means you become an
> employee of the recruitery (or the client itself) for the duration of
> the contract. The employer pays your share of social security taxes
> and withholds taxes from your paycheck, etc. As a "W-2 employee" you
> MAY be eligible for health insurance and other benefits offered by th
> employer to its employees, as well as unemployment compensation at the
> end of the contract.
>
> If you are "paid on a 1099" you are an independent contractor, and
> responsible for paying both the employee and employer share of social
> security taxes. You may also be required to purchase your own
> liability and errors/ommissions insurance.
>
> You don't have to "form a corporation" to be paid "on a 1099 basis,"
> BUT some clients want to see evidence that you are in fact an
> independent business, and forming a corporation is one way to do
> that. Lots of miscellaneous income is reported on 1099s, such as
> honoraria for speaking at a meeting, payments to review a book for a
> publisher, or short term work assignments. If you have kids, and a
> babysitter whom you pay more than (I think) $600 a year, you have to
> give her a 1099 documenting what you've paid her. The babysitter does
> not need to "form a corporation."
>
> BUT, setting up a corporation can be time consuming and expensive,
> depending on what state you live in (here in the USA). One important
> reason why people incorporate when they set up a new business is to
> create the "corporate veil" between their personal assets and their
> business assets. If there is litigation over some issue, one of the
> first things the other side is going to do is attempt to "pierce the
> corporate veil" and try to come after your personal assets. For
> example, that happened to a friend of mine who is a dentist who formed
> a small corproation for his practice that included two or three other
> dentists. When one of other dentists sued the remaining owners (I
> can't recall the details of the suit now), the first thing the
> plaintiff did was attack the legal basis of the corporation in an
> attempt to expose the personal assets of the defendants. Among other
> "attacks" was that the "corporation" was formed using an online tool,
> was incoporation in Delaware even though all business was done in
> California, etc.
>
> In the SAS programming world, some pharmas (and other companies) will
> only bring short-term workers in to their organizations if they are
> "W2 employees" of a larger placement/recruitment firm. This
> arrangements, while often difficult for the programmer, give the
> employer a certain level of legal protection against claims that
> "contractors" were really "employees," etc. If the recruiter offers
> you the "payment on a 1099" option you will most likely have to
> provide proof to the recruiter, and the client, that you have
> liability and/or errors and omissions insurance, which can be
> expensive to obtain.
>
> In the past, I've mentioned my strong feeling that it makes no sense
> "to incorporate" to become a SAS Software contractor doing on-site
> work for clients, especially if you anticipate having just one or two
> short term jobs. It isn't worth it. I think it would make more sense
> to do a W2 arrangement with the recruiting firm. While you may be
> paid less per hour, your taxes are being paid and many of the
> unpleasant bits of independent contracting (e.g., payroll, making tax
> payments, etc) are handled by others. And, there is a chance you can
> get health insurance, paid vacations, sick leave, etc while you are
> "on a W2" with the client. In the long term, I do not think there is
> any financial benefit to going through the steps to incoporate for the
> purpose of a short term contract as a SAS programmer for a pharma
> company.
>
> I hope this information is of use to you.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Andrew
>
> Andrew Karp
> Sierra Information Serviceswww.SierraInformation.com
>
> On Jan 26, 5:36 am, John Uebersax <jsueber...@gmail.com> wrote:
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>
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> > Recruiters often ask me, "do you want to work on a W2 or a 1099
> > basis?"
>
> > Can someone help me understand what is required to work on a 1099
> > basis?
>
> > 1. Must I take legal steps to form a corporation?
> > 2. Or can I simply operate as a sole-proprietorship?
> > 3. I mainly work in the pharma area. Will companies do business with
> > me directly as a contractor if I am not incorporated?
>
> > 4. Or perhaps it might be better to ask the question in an open-ended
> > way: what steps are required to contract directly with a pharma
> > company?
>
> > If there's a better discussion group in which to ask these questions,
> > please let me know (although I suppose there are many other people
> > here who are intestested in this topic).
>
> > Thanks in advance
>
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Andrew,
I agree on parts and disagree on parts.
Incorporating is cheap and easy:
http://www.ailcorp.com/?AID=10361936&PID=1787085&SID=USMD11789
It is worth it for lots of reasons but one major one (that pays for it
essentially) is the Solo 401K.
Talk to your accountant but ABSOLUTELY consider a 1099 and
incorporation. The Solo 401K is manna from heaven and is well worth
the price of the incorporation.
A lot of clients now will not even consider a W2 (I am suprised you
are being offered it). I am asked for my tax id on every single
engagement now.
Alan
Savian
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