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Date:         Thu, 30 Jul 2009 13:22:27 -0400
Reply-To:     Mark Miller <mdhmiller@GMAIL.COM>
Sender:       "SAS(r) Discussion" <SAS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From:         Mark Miller <mdhmiller@GMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: SPSS & IBM
Comments: To: John Burton <jrburtonsaspro@gmail.com>
In-Reply-To:  <c5736a550907300046p40a8c399h537de4803bbd9e95@mail.gmail.com>
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John,

With respect to SPSS competing with SAS, which markets has SPSS thrived in while SAS dropped the ball.?

As far as Stata goes, it seems like it has the "user-driven spirit" which SAS seemed to exemplify in the early years.

Having used and supported SPSS and SAS over the lifetime of both products, I'd say that SAS and SPSS have both suffered from bouts with multiple personality disorder since leaving their mainframe roots.

... Mark Miller

On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 3:46 AM, John Burton <jrburtonsaspro@gmail.com>wrote:

> Here, here!! > > I've been having an interested conversation with a mate at Syncsort > about how CA gobbled up them and many other companies just to either > remarket then under the CA brand or to just make that software product > "go away" because it was a more successful competitor to one of their > own products. > > One has to wonder, if IBM plans to redesign SPSS and pump it up with > steroids to have a face-to-face competition with SAS. Lord knows that > both SPSS and Strata have been able to do well by positioning > themselves into the markets that SAS dropped the ball on. > > > Best Cheers, > Ray Burton > Chattanooga TN > AnalyticBridge, inCircle, Linked-In, MedZilla, SAS/L > http://www.analyticbridge.com/profile­/RayBurton > http://www.linkedin.com/in/johnrayburton > > On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 8:53 AM, Philip Rack<PhilRack@minequest.com> > wrote: > > Amen to that. It wasn't enough that they ruined software companies and > > products, they screwed their own investors! > > http://www.nytimes.com/2007/08/15/business/15kumar.html?_r=1 > > > > > > Philip Rack > > MineQuest, LLC > > SAS & WPS Consulting and WPS Reseller > > Tel: (614) 457-3714 > > Web: www.MineQuest.com > > Blog: www.MineQuest.com/WordPress > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: SAS(r) Discussion [mailto:SAS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of > Jack > > Hamilton > > Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 12:48 AM > > To: SAS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > Subject: Re: SPSS & IBM > > > > On Jul 28, 2009, at 1:04 pm, Fehd, Ronald J. (CDC/CCHIS/NCPHI) wrote: > > > >> look for: > >> "Oracle makes offer for SAS Institute" > > > > Better Oracle than CA. > > > > -- > > Jack Hamilton > > jfh@alumni.stanford.org > > Tots units fem força! > > > > > > > > > >> > >> remember: "Acquisitions Happen!" > >> > >>> -----Original Message----- > >>> From: owner-sas-l@listserv.uga.edu > >>> [mailto:owner-sas-l@listserv.uga.edu] On Behalf Of Mike Zdeb > >>> Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 9:29 AM > >>> To: SAS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > >>> Subject: OT: SPSS & IBM > >>> > >>> hi ... fyi ... > >>> > >>> http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/07/2 > >>> 8/AR2009072800858.html > >>> > >>> Monster Merger: IBM Buys SPSS For Approx. $1.2 Billion In Cash Deal > >>> > >>> IBM is buying analytics software and solutions provider SPSS > >>> in an all cash transaction at a price of $50/share - > >>> a 42 percent premium to Monday's closing price of $35.09 on > >>> Nasdaq - resulting in a total cash consideration > >>> in the merger of approximately $1.2 billion. The acquisition > >>> is subject to SPSS shareholder approval, > >>> regulatory clearances and other closing conditions, and is > >>> expected to close later in the second half of 2009. > >>> > >>> and ... > >>> > >>> http://www.spss.com/jackmessage.htm > >>> > >>> -- > >>> Mike Zdeb > >>> U@Albany School of Public Health > >>> One University Place > >>> Rensselaer, New York 12144-3456 > >>> P/518-402-6479 F/630-604-1475 > >>> > >>> > > >


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