Date: Wed, 5 May 2010 15:30:52 -0700
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From: Jack Hamilton <jfh@STANFORDALUMNI.ORG>
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It would be interesting to hear an explanation of why installing and updating SAS products is so difficult.
It's not that even the simple cases are problematic. It's not that there are no examples of good ways to do it. And the people at SAS are smart and could certainly figure it out.
So there must be some other reason, but what? Internal politics? A conscious decision to make it hard? They don't think it's worth the effort?
--
Jack Hamilton
jfh@alumni.stanford.org
Caelum non animum mutant qui trans mare currunt.
On May 5, 2010, at 15:06 , toby dunn wrote:
> Well proves two things: SAS admits that there is a problem and they are reactive rather than proactive. SGF and ballotware is good up to a point. Id rather see SAS be a little more proactive rather than reactive on many things. Look at BI (I still Big Mistake) when it was rolled out, the next thing you know you have whole tracks at SUGI then I believe on how to install it. Do we ave to pay the same price for EG also. Wen did learning from past mistakes become an option.
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> Toby Dunn
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> "Don't bail. The best gold is at the bottom of barrels of crap."
> Randy Pausch
>
> "Be prepared. Luck is where preparation meets opportunity."
> Randy Pausch
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>> Date: Wed, 5 May 2010 17:30:08 -0400
>> From: dynamicpanel@YAHOO.COM
>> Subject: Re: "R is an epic fail." from http://www.thejuliagroup.com/blog/?p=433
>> To: SAS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
>>
>> Unfortunately and accidentally, SAS bites Dr. AnnMaria De Mars from the
>> back:
>> http://susanslaughter.wordpress.com/2010/05/04/a-sas-horror-story/
>> or tiny URL:
>> http://tiny.cc/8ut6o
>>
>>
>> On Thu, 29 Apr 2010 18:13:17 -0400, Joe Whitehurst
>> <joewhitehurst@GMAIL.COM> wrote:
>>
>>> "I know that R is free and I am actually a Unix fan and think Open Source
>>> software is a great idea. However, for me personally and for most users,
>>> both individual and organizational, the much greater cost of software is
>> the
>>> time it takes to install it, maintain it, learn it and document it. On
>> that,
>>> R is an epic fail. It does NOT fit with the way the vast majority of people
>>> in the world use computers."
>>>
>>> Dr. AnnMaria De Mars
>
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