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Date:         Sat, 17 Jul 2010 17:23:02 -0400
Reply-To:     Wensui Liu <liuwensui@GMAIL.COM>
Sender:       "SAS(r) Discussion" <SAS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From:         Wensui Liu <liuwensui@GMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Genmod and zero inflated models
Comments: To: Jerry Davis <jwd@uga.edu>
In-Reply-To:  <20100716140024.4135.JWD@uga.edu>
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before jumping from poisson model to zip, it might be worth to try NB model with a more flexible variance assumption but more parsimonious than zip. as a practical rule, you might use vuong test to compare ZIP and NB.

On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 2:18 PM, Jerry Davis <jwd@uga.edu> wrote: > Several months ago I was helping an entymology grad student and his data > (insect counts) had a lot of zeros. I guess the insects weren't > attracted to his treatments and avoided the traps. > Here is a summary: > > count freq percent > > 0 6437 87.16 > 1 651 8.82 > 2 215 2.91 > 3 50 0.68 > 4 19 0.26 > 5 4 0.05 > 6 5 0.07 > 7 1 0.01 > 10 1 0.01 > 11 1 0.01 > 17 1 0.01 > > This is a *lot* of zeros for agriculture data, in my experience. I had > a copy of the data and one afternoon thought it would be a good exercise > to fit a ZIP model with GENMOD and check out the output. SAS told me > that I didn't have zero inflated data and ignored my ZEROMODEL statement! > Actually, a regular poisson model fit pretty well; the deviance > parameter was .88. > > Anyway, new stuff comes in every day or two and I never got back to this > exercise, but I wonder what a zero inflated distribution looks like. > > Jerry > > -- > Jerry Davis > Experimental Statistics > UGA, CAES, Griffin Campus >

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