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Date:         Mon, 23 Aug 2010 10:09:40 +0800
Reply-To:     Eins Bernardo <einsbernardo@yahoo.com.ph>
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From:         Eins Bernardo <einsbernardo@yahoo.com.ph>
Subject:      Re: Advantages of cluster analysis over factor analysis?
Comments: To: Steve Peck <link@umich.edu>
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Dear Steve et al,  you wrote: (even though it is usually better to select your best raw variables for CA, unless the FA reveals highly reliable and uni-dimensional factors that include everything you want to know about subgroups)

In FA, when can a unidimensional factor be considered reliable factor?  Are you referring to a high cronbach alpha?

Eins

--- On Sun, 8/22/10, Steve Peck <link@umich.edu> wrote:

From: Steve Peck <link@umich.edu> Subject: Re: Advantages of cluster analysis over factor analysis? To: SPSSX-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Sunday, 22 August, 2010, 6:48 PM

it seems to me that... "FA" and "CA" address completely different questions; that is, FA assesses the relations among *variables* -- aka "variable-centered" analysis -- and finds fewer vars aka "factors" that explain the relations among the raw variables. CA assesses the relations among *objects* (e.g., people)  -- aka "person-centered" analysis -- and finds relatively homogeneous sugroups of objects (defined by similar patterns of values on the given cluster variables). In practice, people generally first use FA to find a reduced number of variables and then CA to find subgroups based on this reduced number of variables/factors.    (even though it is usually better to select your best raw variables for CA, unless the FA reveals highly reliable and uni-dimensional factors that include everything you want to know about subgroups) Any reviewer who suggests using FA instead of CA does not understand CA. On 8/20/2010 11:47 AM, Tanya wrote: Hi,

I submitted a paper where I had used a cluster analysis (Ward's method and k-means) to structure a questionnaire. However, this was rejected by one reviewer who did not find my approach convincing (factor analysis is more common indeed). The journal addresses practitioners, therefore I preferred the clear-cut 7-cluster solution of the cluster analysis to the 17-factor result from the cluster analysis with strong crossloadings (the questionnaire concerns a certain subgroup of students, therefore this might probably be expected; the many mini factors consisting of two or three items only suck, though, and eliminating them might shorten the questionnaire significantly ...).

So, are there any arguments about the statistical advantages of CA over FA which might help convince the reviewer? :)

Thanks in advance Tanya

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