Date:         Fri, 6 Aug 2010 23:43:29 -0400
Reply-To:     Florio Arguillas <foa2@CORNELL.EDU>
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From:         Florio Arguillas <foa2@CORNELL.EDU>
Subject:      Re: What do we have to do to SAVE SAS-L
In-Reply-To:  <BECDF0C598C48345B819A5AB7DB303D48F2ED6@LTA3VS022.ees.hhs.gov>
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blame the search engines -- google, yahoo, etc. :-)  They've gotten to be
really good at searching things.

Whenever I have a SAS question that's pretty difficult, I google it.  Where
does it usually take me?  Lo and behold --- a SAS-L question/response!!!

-- Florio



On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 3:33 PM, Lamias, Mark (CDC/OID/OD) (CTR) <
bnz6@cdc.gov> wrote:

> Personally, I think SAS-L is an antiquated method for asking questions
> about SAS.  I have turned most of my questions and responses over to
> runsubmit.com (www.runsubmit.com) which, in my opinion, is a superior
> technology for describing the problems with code as you can designate which
> part of your post is code versus context to preserve the source code.  I'm
> sure everyone is familiar with the fact that often times posting SAS code in
> plain text messages to SAS-L results in the code being chopped up and parsed
> out in a manner that is not always easy to read.  RunSubmit.com also has the
> benefit that users can "vote up" responses so that individuals seeking help
> can quickly move to the solution that is best rated -- something lacking
> with the SAS-L list.
>
> Please don't misinterpret what I'm saying here.  I love SAS-L and find it a
> valuable place for finding information and sharing ideas about SAS.
>  However, I think it can be done much more efficiently by upgrading our
> technology to a system that doesn't date to 1971.
>
> Mark J. Lamias
> SAIC Statistical Consultant & SAIC Team Lead
> Office of the Director -- Office of Informatics
> National Center for Emerging and Zoonotic Infectious Diseases (NCEZID)
> US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention
> w: (404) 498-2646
> m: (404) 543-1394
> f:  (404) 639-1391
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: SAS(r) Discussion [mailto:SAS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of
> Choate, Paul@DDS
> Sent: Friday, August 06, 2010 3:18 PM
> To: SAS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
> Subject: Re: What do we have to do to SAVE SAS-L
>
> Well then I'll blame David Cassel's absence.  =)
>
> A lot of my fellow dinosaurs have dropped off the SAS-L radar or are in
> lurking-only status.  Many of us in the SASv5 & before generations are
> hitting retirement age, or maybe we just are busy with the recession and
> all.  I know I've been cramming six days of work each week into four with
> the furloughs around here.
>
> We also haven't had the huge SCL flame wars lately - where is Joe anyway?
>
> Paul Choate
> DDS Data Extraction
> (916) 654-2160
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: SAS(r) Discussion [mailto:SAS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of Teed,
> Lionel
> Sent: Friday, August 06, 2010 11:14 AM
> To: SAS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
> Subject: Re: What do we have to do to SAVE SAS-L
>
> Alright....so there is a chance for SAS-L once again!
>
> Though if Toby is off his meds it bodes poorly for the Pharmaceuticals!
>
>
>
> Lionel
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: SAS(r) Discussion [mailto:SAS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of
> Arthur Tabachneck
> Sent: Friday, August 06, 2010 12:51 PM
> To: SAS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
> Subject: Re: What do we have to do to SAVE SAS-L
>
> Paul,
>
> Actually, as of the end of July, Toby is back in the top 10 again.
>
> Art
> ---------
> On Fri, 6 Aug 2010 09:40:38 -0700, Choate, Paul@DDS
> <Paul.Choate@DDS.CA.GOV> wrote:
>
> >The real problem is that Toby started taking adhd meds and quit posting
> 300 posts a day.  (j/k)
> >
> >Now he's going to hunt me down and shoot me like the hell-bent Texan he
> is.
> >
> >=)
> >
> >Paul Choate
> >DDS Data Extraction
> >(916) 654-2160
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: SAS(r) Discussion [mailto:SAS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of
> Peter Flom
> >Sent: Friday, August 06, 2010 9:12 AM
> >To: SAS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
> >Subject: Re: What do we have to do to SAVE SAS-L
> >
> >"Data _null_;" <iebupdte@GMAIL.COM> wrote
> >
> >>Perhaps the PRIVATE response is part of the problem.  I don't see the
> >>point in participating in SAS-L if you are not going to post replies
> >>to the group.
> >>
> >
> >I agree, with some very rare exceptions.
> >
> >For instance, if the poster has made a very obvious error, I may respond
> privately.  It could embarrass the poster, and doesn't seem to add value
> to the site.
> >
> >Also "little birdies" sometimes reply off list.
> >
> >But in general, I learn a tremendous amount by following threads.
> >
> >Peter
> >
> >Peter L. Flom, PhD
> >Statistical Consultant
> >Website: http://www DOT statisticalanalysisconsulting DOT com/
> >Writing; http://www.associatedcontent.com/user/582880/peter_flom.html
> >Twitter:   @peterflom
>
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