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Date:         Thu, 23 Sep 2010 08:36:03 -0400
Reply-To:     Dave <davidallsopster@GMAIL.COM>
Sender:       "SPSSX(r) Discussion" <SPSSX-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From:         Dave <davidallsopster@GMAIL.COM>
Subject:      GENLIN: The Hessian Matrix is singular,
              some convergence criteria are not satisfied

Hi,

I'm doing a longitudinal analysis using the GEE in the GENLIN command. However everytime I run it it tells me that "The Hessian Matrix is singular, some convergence criteria are not satisfied". And then it goes on to say that "The Genlin procedure continues despite the above warnings. Subsequent results shown for last iteration. Validity of model fit is uncertain."

My data is daily responses to a 10 point likert scale questionnaire (I am using an ordinal probit model with a multinomial probability distribution and an autoregressive correlation structure specified). The parameter estimates table lists each of the 10 likert scale choices under the heading "Threshold" - and the last choice (choice 10) has a small "a" next to it indicating that " Hessian Matrix Singularity is caused by this parameter. The parameter estimate at the last iteration is displayed."

I can't find much information on this anywhere - but what I have found makes me think this could be related to my data sparseness. As I said, my likert scale runs from 0 - 10. Most people have responded in the 0 - 5 range, and very few people are scoring the higher 5 - 10 range...I'm not fully sure how an ordinal probit GEE works under the hood, but I suspect that any likert scale choices with very few entries in them would cause problems..

Is there a better way to analyse this data to make the results more reliable? The participants in my study fill out a "feelings and sensations" questionnaire each day for 14 days of a smoking quit attempt, so I have to use the GEE approach, but maybe the autoregressive correlation structure could be a problem? Any ideas for a better structure? I know that in SAS you can only use an independent correlation structure for an ordinal probit multinomial GEE analysis...but this would seem to ignore the within person temporal structure in the data wouldn't it?

Maybe an exchangeable correlation structure is better if it doesnt lead to singularities in the hessian matrix??

Sorry for such a dense message - just want to outline the problem.

I'd appreciate any ideas,

Thanks

Dave

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