Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2010 22:37:21 +0000
Reply-To: Paul Kent <Paul.Kent@SAS.COM>
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From: Paul Kent <Paul.Kent@SAS.COM>
Subject: Re: What is proc sortt?
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At times we've issued "the same proc with a new name" as a way of allowing us to get feedback on extensions to that procedure, without completely putting everyones production workload at risk.
In the past we've seen TREPORT - new features in proc report; TFREQ - new statistics in proc freq, and SORTT - the threaded implementation...
Sometimes we can prototype new features simply with new options in the existing PROC. It's usually a judgement call related to how invasive the new feature is to the structure of the production code.
We want power users to kick the tyres (for my UK friends) on some new features or implementation before they become permanent...
So they remain undocumented (mostly) because the features are "transient" in the sense that they migrate into the "official" versions of the procedures, or they were not such good ideas to start with.
And they remain implemented (mostly) so as not to overly in-convenience any early adopters who have been so bold as to use them in production jobs...
Hope that helps y'all understand our motivation (at least a little bit)
Cheers
Paul
Paul Kent
SAS Platform R&D
-----Original Message-----
From: SAS(r) Discussion [mailto:SAS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of Suzanne McCoy
Sent: Friday, September 03, 2010 9:35 AM
To: SAS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
Subject: Re: What is proc sortt?
Gotta love those undocumented features!
-----Original Message-----
From: Philip Rack [mailto:PhilRack@MineQuest.com]
Sent: Friday, September 03, 2010 9:29 AM
To: Suzanne McCoy; SAS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
Subject: RE: What is proc sortt?
I do remember using SORTT. It was the Institute's early foray into providing
a sort utility if your site didn't have a third party product like CA-SORT,
SYNCSORT, PLSORT, etc... At first it was pitched as being a replacement for
sorting smaller datasets because it was supposedly faster. My recollection
is that it was faster because it didn't have the overhead of calling the
external 3rd party sorting utility.
Philip Rack
MineQuest, LLC
SAS & WPS Consulting and WPS Reseller
Tel: (614) 457-3714
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-----Original Message-----
From: SAS(r) Discussion [mailto:SAS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of Suzanne
McCoy
Sent: Friday, September 03, 2010 9:11 AM
To: SAS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
Subject: Re: What is proc sortt?
The only reference to proc sortt on the support site looks like a typo on a
2000 SUGI paper.
-----Original Message-----
From: SAS(r) Discussion [mailto:SAS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of Phil
Rack
Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2010 8:35 PM
To: SAS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
Subject: Re: What is proc sortt?
If I recall, PROC SORTT was a SAS sort proc. If your site didn't have
Syncsort or some other sorting utility, you could use sortt.
Phil Rack
www.minequest.com
An Authorized WPS Reseller
----- Original Message -----
From: "Arthur Tabachneck" <art297@NETSCAPE.NET>
To: <SAS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2010 7:32 PM
Subject: What is proc sortt?
> In looking at some old sas-l posts I came across one that asked what proc
> sortt was.
>
> If you submit a typical proc sort run, but use proc sortt, the results
> appear the same and no error or warning message is shown.
>
> Anyone have any idea why?
>
> Art
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