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Date:         Fri, 10 Sep 2010 14:58:43 -0400
Reply-To:     Chang Chung <chang_y_chung@HOTMAIL.COM>
Sender:       "SAS(r) Discussion" <SAS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From:         Chang Chung <chang_y_chung@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: SUG peer-review and authorship
Comments: To: "Viel, Kevin" <kviel@SJHA.ORG>

On Fri, 10 Sep 2010 14:03:20 -0400, Viel, Kevin <kviel@SJHA.ORG> wrote: ... > Either way, I was hoping for a formal peer review. ... Hi,

I have no doubt that some of the SAS conference papers are of a very high quality that will have no problem going through a rigorous anonymous multiple peer review process.

But at the same time, there will be a lot more papers that would not survive any peer-review processes, mine likely being one. :-) And frankly, I doubt that there are many experts who are capable and willing to do manuscript reviews so that it is practical to put together an SGF-size conference every year.

It is also true, however, that we need more reviews. Especially for the published conference papers. This is not just for user-written, contributed papers, but papers written by SAS employees as well. For instance, I see the following code in one of the papers in the SGF2010 SAS Presents section. I don't think this code would have published if there waw a peer- review process. (Recently I see more pieces of sas code that have this, hard to describe, weird, or half-brain-dead "feel." Maybe this is the "feel" of machine-generated code, but I digress.)

filename REQUEST temp; DATA _NULL_; FILE REQUEST; INPUT; PUT _INFILE_; CARDS4; q=%23SGF10&ppr=1500;

filename twtOut "\\twitter\out\SASTweets.xml"; %let twUser='USERNAME'; %let twPass='PASSWORD'; proc http in=REQUEST out=twtOut ...

I think one way out of this situation is to develop outlets for a well- written, high-quality SAS papers, in addition to conference proceedings. I am sorry to mention a competitor, but STATA has a nice journal published quarterly since 2002. It has both full-length articles and short notes. The papers are "reviewed" -- it does not say "peer-reviewed" nor "anonymously" -- and has established enough credibility so that it is now indexed and abstracted in the likes of CompuMath Citation Index, RePEC, SciSearch, and SSCI.

There is already a journal called "Pharmaceutical Programming" (http:// maney.co.uk/index.php/journals/pha/), which has some potential of going toward this direction, but it is not for SAS alone and it has too narrow a scope for all the SAS users out there.

Cheers, Chang


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