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Date:         Mon, 24 Jan 2011 17:19:43 +0800
Reply-To:     Anthony James <luckyantonio2003@yahoo.com>
Sender:       "SPSSX(r) Discussion" <SPSSX-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From:         Anthony James <luckyantonio2003@yahoo.com>
Subject:      Re: Chi square or U Test
In-Reply-To:  <1295791262641-3353647.post@n5.nabble.com>
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Dear Bruce,

I replied to that mail of you and sent it both to your hotmail and lakeheadu mail. Please consider my new posting. It's the same problem but I have worded it differently which I think is clearer. I'd be grateful. I badly need this. Cheers Anthony

--- On Sun, 1/23/11, Bruce Weaver <bruce.weaver@hotmail.com> wrote:

> From: Bruce Weaver <bruce.weaver@hotmail.com> > Subject: Re: Chi square or U Test > To: SPSSX-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Date: Sunday, January 23, 2011, 8:01 AM > Anthony, I see you're posting the > same question under a new subject. I made > a guess as to the structure of your data below, but did not > see a response. > Note that if you responded to my hotmail address, it is > used only for > posting to this list via Nabble, and I don't check it > regularly--see the > note in my signature file. So please respond to the > mailing list. > > Bruce > > > Bruce Weaver wrote: > > > > > > Anthony James wrote: > >> > >> Dear Colleagues, > >> I have a research design problem. I'd be thankful > if you helped. > >> I read 20 words for 30 cases and asked them to > tell me the first word > >> that hits them. I categorized the words generated > by the participants > >> under 3 categories of 'related words', 'irrelevant > words' and > >> 'synonyms/antonyms'. Then I computed the mean of > each category over the > >> 30 cases. > >> > > > > You say you asked the cases to tell you the first word > that hit them. I > > take it, then, that cases are subjects (or > participants) in your study, > > right? > > > > Re the means you computed, I think they are the mean > number of subjects > > (or cases) who selected each category, is that right? > > > > > > Anthony James wrote: > >> > >> In Phase 2, I give pictures as prompts to > participants instead of words > >> and asked them to tell me the first word that hits > them. I categorized > >> the words in the same way and computed the means > of the three categories. > >> > > > > Does Phase 2 use the same subjects (cases) in Phase > 1? > > > > > > > > Anthony James wrote: > >> > >> Results show that the mean of 'synonyms/antonyms' > when words are used as > >> prompts is 19 and its mean is 13 when pictures are > used as prompts. This > >> suggests that words generate more > synonyms/antonyms than pictures. How > >> can I test the statistical significance of this > difference? Is > >> Mann-Whitney U Test the right test? > >> > > > > The Mann-Whitney U test is a rank-based alternative to > the unpaired (or > > independent groups) t-test. I.e., it can be used > when you have two > > independent groups of observations. > > > > > > Anthony James wrote: > >> > >> I can consider all the 3 categories of words and > the two categories of > >> picture and run a 2*3 chi square. However chi > square doesn’t give the > >> significance of the difference for each category > separately. > >>  > >> Cheers > >> Anthony > >>  > >> > > > > If you have the same subjects in both phases, then a > chi-square test of > > association is out--it requires independence of > observations. > > > > I'll have a guess at what your data look like. > > > > Subject Phase Word Category > > 1      1 >    1     2 > > 1      1 >    2     3 > > 1      1 >    3     1 > > 1      1 >    4     2 > > etc > > 1      1 >    20     3 > > 2      1 >      1    >    1 > > 2      1 >      2    >    3 > > etc > > 2      1 >    20     1 > > etc, including same type of thing with Phase = 2 > > > > This can be reduced to one row per Subject as > follows: > > > > Subject P1C1 P1C2 P1C3 P2C1 P2C2 > P2C3 > > 1     8  >   7   5   >  2    10   8 > > 2     4  >  12   4    > 4     9   7 > > 3      11 >     3   6 >    5  >    6   9 > > etc > > > > Where P1C1 = Phase 1, Category 1; P1C2 = Phase 1, > Category 2, etc; and the > > data points are counts of how often that category was > chosen for each > > subject. Thus, within a phase, C1, C2, and C3 > must sum to 20. > > > > Is this what your data look like? > > > > > > > > > ----- > -- > Bruce Weaver > bweaver@lakeheadu.ca > http://sites.google.com/a/lakeheadu.ca/bweaver/ > > "When all else fails, RTFM." > > NOTE: My Hotmail account is not monitored regularly. > To send me an e-mail, please use the address shown above. > > -- > View this message in context: http://spssx-discussion.1045642.n5.nabble.com/Chi-square-or-U-Test-tp3347510p3353647.html > Sent from the SPSSX Discussion mailing list archive at > Nabble.com. > > ===================== > To manage your subscription to SPSSX-L, send a message to > LISTSERV@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > (not to SPSSX-L), with no body text except the > command. To leave the list, send the command > SIGNOFF SPSSX-L > For a list of commands to manage subscriptions, send the > command > INFO REFCARD >

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