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Date:   Fri, 7 Jan 2011 14:13:04 -0800
Reply-To:   Dale McLerran <stringplayer_2@YAHOO.COM>
Sender:   "SAS(r) Discussion" <SAS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From:   Dale McLerran <stringplayer_2@YAHOO.COM>
Subject:   Re: Frustration With SAS - My Vote for most poorly implemented Programming Language "Feature"
In-Reply-To:   <AANLkTinpyfHkJfaxEhC=XGC81Kv109UtBQWuMRv12TsE@mail.gmail.com>
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Joe,

Your point is well taken among the user community. I do look at what is new in 9.2 and try to examine the 9.2 documentation for features that did not exist in 9.1.3. Unfortunately, with the online documentation for 9.2, SI has taken away documentation usability. If you can't find the pages that you need, then what good is the documentation?

Complaints with the 9.2 online documentation have previously been aired on SAS-L. SI had some problems with their online documentation for some versions prior to 9.1. But they really had a good documentation delivery method with 9.1 and they bailed on it.

Dale

--------------------------------------- Dale McLerran Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Center mailto: dmclerra@nFoHsCpRaCm.org Ph: (206) 667-2926 Fax: (206) 667-5977 ---------------------------------------

--- On Fri, 1/7/11, Joe Whitehurst <joewhitehurst@GMAIL.COM> wrote:

> From: Joe Whitehurst <joewhitehurst@GMAIL.COM> > Subject: Re: Frustration With SAS - My Vote for most poorly implemented Programming Language "Feature" > To: SAS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Date: Friday, January 7, 2011, 11:30 AM > Especially the coverage of topics > that didn't exist in 9.13! I only fired > one person when I operated a SAS Consulting Company from > 1986 through 2004. > I fired the person because they insisted on using "old" > documentation. > > On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 2:03 PM, T J <tj_noreply@yahoo.com> > wrote: > > > Dale, > > > > The 9.13 help you mentioned is much better than the > 9.2's. > > > > Thanks very much, > > > > -TJ > > > > On Fri, 7 Jan 2011 10:50:47 -0800, Dale McLerran > <stringplayer_2@YAHOO.COM > > > > > wrote: > > > > >TJ, > > > > > >Indeed, something is amiss with the 9.2 online > documentation > > >product filter. As you indicate, there are > 26 entries for DSD > > >which are returned by the online > documentation. When one clicks > > >on Product in order to filter the 26 entries, the > filter reports > > > > > > Base SAS(3) > > > SAS/GRAPH(1) > > > SAS/GRAPH ODS Graphics Editor(1) > > > SAS/IntrNet(1) > > > SAS/STAT(1) > > > > > >Thus, when a product filter is applied, we are > only able to > > >find 7 of the 26 references to DSD in the > documentation. This > > >is not good! > > > > > >I actually prefer the implementation of online > documentation for > > >SAS version 9.1.3 rather than the online > documentation for 9.2. > > >Search filters can be applied before an initial > search is executed. > > >When I search for DSD in the 9.1.3 documentation, > I find 14 hits > > >which are in: > > > > > > SAS Language Reference: Dictionary(7) > > > SAS Language Reference: Concepts(2) > > > Base SAS Procedures Guide(2) > > > SAS Companion for Microsoft Windows(1) > > > Application Dispatcher(1) > > > SAS Output Delivery System Guide(1) > > > > > >When a filter is applied to search just the named > volume, the > > >number of hits is consistent with what is shown > above. There > > >is a little quirk that is a bit annoying in that > when you > > >initially select "Base SAS Procedures Guide", all > base SAS > > >documentation is initially selected. In > order to restrict > > >a search to the "Base SAS Procedures Guide", you > have to > > >remove the 14 additional volumes that are > initially > > >highlighted for the search by a Control-Left mouse > button > > >click on each of the volumes to remove. > > > > > >The 9.1.3 documentation is available at > > >http://support.sas.com/onlinedoc/913/docMainpage.jsp > > > > > >HTH, > > > > > >Dale > > > > > >--------------------------------------- > > >Dale McLerran > > >Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Center > > >mailto: dmclerra@nFoHsCpRaCm.org > > >Ph: (206) 667-2926 > > >Fax: (206) 667-5977 > > >--------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > >--- On Fri, 1/7/11, T J <tj_noreply@YAHOO.COM> > wrote: > > > > > >> From: T J <tj_noreply@YAHOO.COM> > > >> Subject: Re: Frustration With SAS - My Vote > for most poorly > > implemented > Programming Language "Feature" > > >> To: SAS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > >> Date: Friday, January 7, 2011, 9:18 AM > > >> Hello Art and Nat, > > >> > > >> Thanks for your posts. > > >> > > >> I tried to search the key word "DSD" both on > the > > >> 1) SAS9.2 help file on my > PC > > >> "C:\Program > > >> > Files\SAS\SASFoundation\9.2\core\help\common.chm" > > >> 2) the online help on > SAS.com(see below link) > > >> > > >> From 1) I got 19 entries and from 2) I got > 26. Most of the entries are > > >> from BASE SAS and they do match up pretty > good with SAS.com has a few > > >> more items. > > >> > > >> But, in 2), if I limit the PRODUCT to "BASE > SAS", only 3 items remain. > > A > > >> large portion of the entries are gone even > though I believe they belong > > >> to BASE. > > >> > > >> Thank for the help, > > >> > > >> -TJ > > >> > > >


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