Date:         Thu, 6 Jan 2011 14:35:41 -0800
Reply-To:     "DUELL, BOB (ATTCINW)" <BD9439@ATT.COM>
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From:         "DUELL, BOB (ATTCINW)" <BD9439@ATT.COM>
Subject:      Re: Frustration With SAS - My Vote for most poorly implemented
              Programming Language "Feature"
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My biggest frustration is with the new 9.2 online doc.  It's very
difficult to find what I want, even if I already know what "book" it's
in.  A simple index of all the "books" would be nice.

Plus, many document's make reference to other documents, but only as a
bolded text string.  I was trying to read up about changes to
SAS/CONNECT today and the page says "Details about the security
technologies that SAS supports have been relocated from this document to
Encryption in SAS".  Yes, I typed that into the search box and found 270
references to that phrase, but a hyperlink would have been so much
easier.

When I need to find the syntax for a function or the proper spelling of
a format, I also go back to the old 9.1 online doc.  That application is
so much easier to use, at least for me.

Bob

-----Original Message-----
From: SAS(r) Discussion [mailto:SAS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of Nat
Wooding
Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2011 2:04 PM
To: SAS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
Subject: Re: Frustration With SAS - My Vote for most poorly implemented
Programming Language "Feature"

TJ

Assuming that you are referring to doing a keyword search of the on-line
docs, in the drop down list of products, click on the product that you
want
to scan .

Nat wooding

-----Original Message-----
From: SAS(r) Discussion [mailto:SAS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of T J
Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2011 3:55 PM
To: SAS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
Subject: Re: Frustration With SAS - My Vote for most poorly implemented
Programming Language "Feature"

Totally agree with Dale on the matrix functionalities be part of BASE
SAS.

I would add another one here:

For the online help, there should be a limiting mechanism to limit the
key
word search to, e.g. BASE SAS only.  Right now a search will bring back
all
the items from all the products, too much of a good thing!

Happy New Year!

-TJ


On Thu, 6 Jan 2011 11:24:08 -0800, Dale McLerran
<stringplayer_2@YAHOO.COM>
wrote in PART:

>Taking the "Fun with SAS" and "Love with SAS" threads in a new
>direction, what is the feature of SAS which frustrates you the
>most.  For me, it has to be - hands down - the lack of common
>matrix operations in data step code and the really pathetic
>attempts to make matrix operations available via the FCMP
>procedure.
>  [snipped]
>I have said before and I will say again that in the arena of
>statistical analysis, SI is going to have their lunch eaten by
>R and other statistical programming languages which allow matrix
>operations as part of their base package.
> [snipped]
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