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Date:         Wed, 9 Mar 2011 18:28:08 -0800
Reply-To:     Bridgette Portman <bportman@uci.edu>
Sender:       "SPSSX(r) Discussion" <SPSSX-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From:         Bridgette Portman <bportman@uci.edu>
Subject:      Re: example output  from crosstabs column proportions
In-Reply-To:  <38ccbe962428494c52e757cc604feacf.squirrel@webmail.uci.edu>
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Shoot, it didn't line up, let me try again:

Tea Party * Party Crosstabulation

Republican Democrat Libertarian Socialist Tea Party No Count 23a 76b 41c 45b 185 % within Party 41.8% 100.0% 69.5% 100.0% Yes Count 32a 0b 18c 0b 50 % within Party 58.2% .0% 30.5% .0% Total Count 55 76 59 45 235 % within Party 100.0% 100.0% 100.0% 100.0%

Each subscript letter denotes a subset of Party categories whose column proportions do not differ significantly from each other at the .05 level.

> Here is another example; this is from my actual dataset, and it's a larger > than 2x2 table. Variables are Party (4 levels) and Tea Party (2 levels, > yes or no). I used compare column percentages, with Bonferroni correction. > And this is what I got. Hope it lines up right. > > Am I interpreting this correctly to say that it means Republicans differ > significantly from Democrats, Libertarians, and Socialists in terms of the > proportions of them who are members of the Tea Party, and also > Libertarians differ significantly from Democrats and Socialists, but > Socialists and Democrats don't differ from each other? > > > Tea Party * Party Crosstabulation > > Party > Republican Democrat Libertarian Socialist > Tea Party No Count 23a 76b 41c > 45b > % within Party 41.8% 100.0% 69.5% 100.0% > > Yes Count 32a 0b > 18c 0b > % within Party 58.2% .0% 30.5% .0% > > Each subscript letter denotes a subset of Party categories whose column > proportions do not differ significantly from each other at the .05 level. > > > > > > > > > >> Below is an output from crosstabs using column proportion testing. But >> what does it show? That 50/50 is significantly different from 20/80? >> Martin Sherman >> >> x * y Crosstabulation >> y >> 1.00 2.00 Total >> x 1.00 Count 40 a 10 b 50 >> % within x 80.0% 20.0% 100.0% >> % within y 50.0% 20.0% 38.5% >> 2.00 Count 40 a 40 b 80 >> % within x 50.0% 50.0% 100.0% >> % within y 50.0% 80.0% 61.5% >> Total Count 80 50 130 >> % within x 61.5% 38.5% 100.0% >> % within y 100.0% 100.0% 100.0% >> Each subscript letter denotes a subset of y categories whose column >> proportions do not differ significantly from each other at the .05 >> level. >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: SPSSX(r) Discussion [mailto:SPSSX-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of >> Bruce Weaver >> Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 6:10 PM >> To: SPSSX-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >> Subject: Re: chi-square post-hoc tests >> >> This is the second or third time I've seen someone mention z-tests under >> CROSSTABS. I'm not familiar with that--is it new in v19? >> >> Thanks, >> Bruce >> >> >> >> Bridgette Portman wrote: >>> >>> That seems like so much extra work. What about the "compare column >>> proportions" option under "z-tests" in Crosstabs --> Cells? Is anyone >>> familiar with using this? If I am interpreting it right, it allows for >>> the kind of pairwise comparisons I'm trying to do, with the option for >>> a Bonferroni adjustment to the alpha level. >>> >>> Bridgette >>> >>> >>>> If one of the elements remains as 2 levels (e.g., 2 X 3), use >>>> logistic regression, with the 2-level variable as the outcome. Then >>>> use appropriate a priori contrasts to disentangle the df (2 df in the >>>> case of the 3 level variable). >>>> >>>> If none of the elements are 2 levels, then you need to consider a >>>> multinomial logistic regression. >>>> >>>> Joe Burleson >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: SPSSX(r) Discussion [mailto:SPSSX-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf >>>> Of Bridgette Portman >>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 1:00 AM >>>> To: SPSSX-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >>>> Subject: chi-square post-hoc tests >>>> >>>> I have another question. >>>> >>>> I'm confused about how to perform post-hoc tests for chi-square >>>> contingency tables larger than 2 x 2. I've been reading up on it in >>>> books and on the internet, and there seem to be two different methods >>>> advised. >>>> Some say to do multiple pairwise comparisons (2x2 tables) with a >>>> Bonferroni correction. Others say to look at the standardized >>>> residuals. >>>> I'm not sure which is the better way. Is there any easy way to >>>> perform posthoc tests on contingency tables in SPSS? >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> Bridgette >>>> >>>> ===================== >>>> To manage your subscription to SPSSX-L, send a message to >>>> LISTSERV@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (not to SPSSX-L), with no body text except >>>> the command. To leave the list, send the command SIGNOFF SPSSX-L For >>>> a list of commands to manage subscriptions, send the command INFO >>>> REFCARD >>>> >>>> ===================== >>>> To manage your subscription to SPSSX-L, send a message to >>>> LISTSERV@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (not to SPSSX-L), with no body text except >>>> the command. To leave the list, send the command SIGNOFF SPSSX-L For >>>> a list of commands to manage subscriptions, send the command INFO >>>> REFCARD >>>> >>>> >>> >>> ===================== >>> To manage your subscription to SPSSX-L, send a message to >>> LISTSERV@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (not to SPSSX-L), with no body text except >>> the command. To leave the list, send the command SIGNOFF SPSSX-L For a >>> list of commands to manage subscriptions, send the command INFO >>> REFCARD >>> >> >> >> ----- >> -- >> Bruce Weaver >> bweaver@lakeheadu.ca >> http://sites.google.com/a/lakeheadu.ca/bweaver/ >> >> "When all else fails, RTFM." >> >> NOTE: My Hotmail account is not monitored regularly. >> To send me an e-mail, please use the address shown above. >> >> -- >> View this message in context: >> http://spssx-discussion.1045642.n5.nabble.com/Anova-SS1-vSS3-using-v-17-0-tp3412630p3420116.html >> Sent from the SPSSX Discussion mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >> >> ===================== >> To manage your subscription to SPSSX-L, send a message to >> LISTSERV@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (not to SPSSX-L), with no body text except the >> command. 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