Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 12:29:41 -0400
Reply-To: oloolo <dynamicpanel@YAHOO.COM>
Sender: "SAS(r) Discussion" <SAS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: oloolo <dynamicpanel@YAHOO.COM>
Subject: Re: A Possible Replacement for SAS Learning Edition
as a matter of fact, R is the free version of S+, came out after S+, not
the vice versa
Besides, because R is a free software and has a huge advanced user base, it
totally changed the competition landscape
as an old saying, You can't step in the same river twice
On Tue, 17 May 2011 10:01:25 -0400, OBrien, Craig <COBrien@CPSC.GOV> wrote:
>8 years ago, there was a commercial version of R: S-PLUS.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: oloolo [mailto:dynamicpanel@YAHOO.COM]
>Sent: Monday, May 16, 2011 5:31 PM
>To: SAS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; OBrien, Craig
>Subject: Re: A Possible Replacement for SAS Learning Edition
>
>8 years ago, there was no commercial version of R, hence the story is
>different.
>
>Now, I don't even ask junior analyst to do statistical analysis or data
>mining in SAS. They can choose other softwares, mostly R, for their
>analysis.
>
>In production jobs, yes, SAS still dominants, possiblly for a long time due
>to legacy applications running everyday, every week.
>
>On Mon, 16 May 2011 17:25:24 -0400, OBrien, Craig <COBrien@CPSC.GOV> wrote:
>
>>People were saying that eight years ago when I got my masters. New
>analysts always use R, because new analysts come from academia where R is
>dominant. Then new analysts go into business and government where SAS is
>dominant, and they use SAS because their managers tell them to.
>>
>>-Craig
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: SAS(r) Discussion [mailto:SAS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of
oloolo
>>Sent: Monday, May 16, 2011 5:17 PM
>>To: SAS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
>>Subject: Re: A Possible Replacement for SAS Learning Edition
>>
>>SAS's short-sight will lead to its failure in 5 to 7 years
>>
>>More and more new analysts are using R, and Revolution is distributing its
>>Enterprise version (with real multi-core capability) freely to academic
>>users as long as you have an email account ends with '.edu';
>>
>>Even though # of jobs with R in the job description is still not on par
>>with those SAS jobs, you definitly can find decent jobs in industries with
>>R programming skills, mostly in Pharm and high-tech IT companies, where
the
>>pay is not bad. Nowadays, even finanical industry is embracing R. While
SAS
>>skill is still desirable when I interview candidates, it is not a must. As
>>long the candidates are smart and can program in either R or SAS, they
will
>>be extended offers.
>>
>>In the next generation of analytical world, since more analysts/hiring
>>managers are trained in R, R users will dominant.
>>
>>I see no reason to pay $199/6mon for such copy.
>>
>>
>>On Mon, 16 May 2011 13:05:21 -0400, Nat Wooding <nathani@VERIZON.NET>
>wrote:
>>
>>>Andrew
>>>
>>>Thanks for adding this information. This offering would be of limited use
>>>but would be better than nothing.
>>>
>>>Nat
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: SAS(r) Discussion [mailto:SAS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of
>Sierra
>>>Info Services/Andrew Karp
>>>Sent: Monday, May 16, 2011 12:21 PM
>>>To: SAS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
>>>Subject: Re: A Possible Replacement for SAS Learning Edition
>>>
>>>Hi everyone...
>>>
>>>I had a chat with a birdie in SAS Pubs while at SGF about this issue. If
>>>memory serves, she said that the initial offering will cost $199 for six
>>>months, provide access ONLY to EG, and that subscribers will NOT be able
>to
>>>use their own data. Instead, you will have to practice with the example
>>>data
>>>sets provided by SAS.
>>>
>>>Hope this helps...
>>>
>>>Andrew Karp
>>>Sierra Information Services
>>>http://www.sierrainformation.com
>>
>>*****!!!
>>Unless otherwise stated, any views or opinions expressed in this
>>e-mail (and any attachments) are solely those of the author and do
>>not necessarily represent those of the U.S. Consumer Product Safety
>>Commission.
>>
>>Copies of product recall and product safety information can be sent
>>to you automatically via Internet e-mail, as they are released by
>>CPSC. To subscribe or unsubscribe to this service go to the following
>>web page: https://www.cpsc.gov/cpsclist.aspx
>>*****!!!
>
>*****!!!
>Unless otherwise stated, any views or opinions expressed in this
>e-mail (and any attachments) are solely those of the author and do
>not necessarily represent those of the U.S. Consumer Product Safety
>Commission.
>
>Copies of product recall and product safety information can be sent
>to you automatically via Internet e-mail, as they are released by
>CPSC. To subscribe or unsubscribe to this service go to the following
>web page: https://www.cpsc.gov/cpsclist.aspx
>*****!!!
| 
