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Date:         Thu, 23 Jun 2011 07:34:46 -0400
Reply-To:     Art@DrKendall.org
Sender:       "SPSSX(r) Discussion" <SPSSX-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From:         Art Kendall <Art@DrKendall.org>
Organization: Social Research Consultants
Subject:      Re: PCA: R-Matrix Determinant =0 and "not positive
              Definite"
Comments: To: mzalikhan <mzalikhan@gmail.com>
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<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"> <html> <head> <meta content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1" http-equiv="Content-Type"> </head> <body bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000"> <font size="+1">When you use factor analysis</font> (PCA is one kind of factor analysis) you find&nbsp; a small number dimensions that "account for"&nbsp; much of the variance in the original data.&nbsp; You can think of each new dimension (factor) as pulling together a number of imperfect variables into an internally consistent measure of a new construct (idea). The original variables are redundant measures of the new construct.&nbsp; If you use varimax rotation, you have a new set of measure that cover pretty much the same hyperspace but that are independent of each other which is what is desirable for clustering.<br> <br> The size of the determinant is not extremely important as long as it is not zero.&nbsp; The small determinant means it will take more iterations to come up with a solution but that should not be a problem with today's computer.<br> <br> WRT the significance level, it is not important. <br> <br> Why is your data missing? Is there anything meaningful about what is missing?<br> <br> Does your version of SPSS have the RMV -replace missing values- procedure?<br> <br> I do not understand your question about accuracy.<br> <br> Members of this list will find it difficult to contribute to this conversation without a more detailed understanding of what you are trying to do and what your data are.<br> What constitutes a case?&nbsp; What do the variables mean?<br> <br> Art Kendall<br> Social research Consultants<br> <br> On 6/23/2011 5:46 AM, mzalikhan wrote: <blockquote cite="mid:1308822373944-4516900.post@n5.nabble.com" type="cite"> <pre wrap="">Thanks Art.

Yes i had some variables that were highly correlated (&gt;0.9) with one another. Excluding those variables solves the ""not positive Definite" issue. However still the R-matrix determinant is very low (E-10). In the literature i have read that it should not be less than 0.00001.

Is it necessary that the significance level (1-tailed) should be greater than 0.001 for R matrix?

I am doing PCA followed by a 2 step clustering analysis on met data to find out synoptic met patterns. My number of variables is around 30 (which perhaps i have to reduce to around 18), number of observations is 1330 but the results show VALID N= 890.

What would be the effect if i replace the missing values by means rather than excluding cases list wise?

Any idea what should i be looking for in the results for accuracy? I would also be thankful if you can guide me after i get PCA results and go for clustering.

Peace.

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