Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 17:25:24 -0400
Reply-To: "Stone, Eric" <estone@wfu.edu>
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From: "Stone, Eric" <estone@wfu.edu>
Subject: Re: problems with cut and paste in version 19
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Thanks John and everyone else for their suggestions. I tried copying into a
different data editor, and it copied but changed the first cell to 0. This
is sufficiently odd behavior that it seems that I just have a malfunctioning
version of spss, except that in google'ing this issue I ran across a number
of other people who said they had the same problem. (John -- I'm doubling
the size of a data set not creating duplicate copies. Jon Peck's solution
works for that case, but there are other situations where I would like to
cut and paste where it's more complicated.)
At any rate, I appreciate everyone's suggestions, but have come to the
conclusion that right now pasting is just not functional within spss for my
operating system constraints (and that of others, although apparently not
everyone), for reasons I don't understand. I will try whatever patches come
out and hope for the best.
Thanks,
Eric
On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 10:49 AM, John F Hall <johnfhall@orange.fr> wrote:
> Eric, Rhonda, Mark****
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> 1: The problem is that edit, cut and paste in SPSS don’t work the same as
> in Word or Excel. I’ve made it work for me, but only by highlighting the
> same area of destination cells in a second data editor as the source cells
> from the first editor. I’ve never risked it in the same one, but that’s due
> to 45 years of not quite trusting computers. Have you tried it using two
> data editors, not just the same one? Apart from that SPSS 19 is fantastic.
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> 2: (for Eric) If you want duplicate data sets, why don’t you just save
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> *From:* SPSSX(r) Discussion [mailto:SPSSX-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] *On Behalf
> Of *Stone, Eric
> *Sent:* 22 September 2011 15:56
> *To:* SPSSX-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
> *Subject:* Re: problems with cut and paste in version 19****
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> Thanks, ViAnn.
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> In terms of the data editor, I copy 10 rows of data in one column
> (highlighting the relevant cells and using copy from the the pull-down menu
> or ctrl-c -- i've tried it both ways). Then, I click on the cell in the
> relevant column below the cells I copied from. I use paste from the pull
> down menu (or ctrl-v) and I just get missing data in all cells.
>
> After that approach failed, I copied using the same procedure, but then
> highlighted the relevant cells to paste into. It did paste into those
> cells, but it eliminated all the data from the rows that I copied from (as
> if I had used cut and paste instead -- I am certain I did not do that by
> mistake, as I have replicated this problem).
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> What I am trying to do is double (or quadruple, actually) an existing data
> set, for teaching purposes. The procedure I've always used to do this is
> copy and paste, which seems straightforward, but if anyone has some other
> solution I'd appreciate it.
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> Thanks,
> Eric****
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> On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 9:34 AM, ViAnn Beadle <vab88011@gmail.com> wrote:*
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> There are so many different ways to cut and paste and so many different
> clipboard formats that reports have to be really specific. Where are you
> copying from? What are you copying? Where are you pasting? How are you
> copying (via the menu, a right-button context menu, a toolbar button, or a
> keyboard shortcut). How are you pasting? What is the selection state in the
> destination.****
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> For example, I am using Stats 19. When I copy plain text from my little
> textpad editor via a Ctrl-C and paste it via Ctrl-V into a new syntax
> window, it pastes the content as expected and the name at the top of the
> window gets an asterisk which is a symbol for unsaved changes. ****
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> It’s really hard for developers to fix problems that they cannot replicate
> because of incomplete information.****
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> *From:* SPSSX(r) Discussion [mailto:SPSSX-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] *On Behalf
> Of *Mark W. Andrews
> *Sent:* Thursday, September 22, 2011 6:46 AM
> *To:* SPSSX-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
> *Subject:* Re: problems with cut and paste in version 19****
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> I think that the Synatx editor is a complete mess (v19, windows 7, 32 bit).
> I had to shut down most of its functionality just to make it somewhat
> workable and reliable—I almost gave up and went back to v15. I continue to
> have trouble cutting and pasting, scrambling code from annoying and
> unnecessary drag and drop functionality, code that exists but is not visible
> on the screen, and unreliable undo (cntrl z) .****
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> ****
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> I appreciate the error window on the bottom, but it nearly always is
> referencing the wrong line number and does not give you enough information
> to resolve the problem. I am back to combing the output as I did before.*
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> Can’t we just get a decent text editor? How about with wild card find and
> replace capability?****
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> Ahhh…done venting…feel much better J****
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> Mark****
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> *From:* SPSSX(r) Discussion [mailto:SPSSX-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] *On Behalf
> Of *Bozena Zdaniuk
> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 21, 2011 5:49 PM
> *To:* SPSSX-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
> *Subject:* Re: problems with cut and paste in version 19****
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> my main issue with cut and paste in syntax files is that if I just do cut
> and paste in the file without doing any other changes and click "save" the
> cut and paste work does not save at all! It's as if spss does not register
> that any changes were made. I lost a lot of work before i trained myself to
> always remember to enter and delete a random letter or something like that.
> This issue is in version 18. Does it persist in v. 19?
> bozena
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Gene Maguin" <emaguin@buffalo.edu>
> To: SPSSX-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
> Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2011 2:29:12 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
> Subject: Re: problems with cut and paste in version 19****
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> Oh!! I wasn't spcific enough either! What specific OS? Version 19, i
> understand but 32 or 64 bit? And there might be a few more subtleties, too.
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> *From:* SPSSX(r) Discussion [mailto:SPSSX-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] *On Behalf
> Of *Stone, Eric
> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 21, 2011 5:19 PM
> *To:* SPSSX-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
> *Subject:* problems with cut and paste in version 19****
>
> About 6 months ago, there was some discussion on the listserv about
> problems with cut and paste in version 19, but it doesn't look like there
> were any solutions.
>
> Now that version 19 has been out longer, I was hoping there was some
> solution that spss has come up with that someone on the list knows about.
> It's hard to imagine that the program doesn't support such a simple and
> common function.
>
> Thanks,
> Eric
>
> Eric Stone
> Department of Psychology
> Wake Forest University
> estone@wfu.edu****
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