Date:         Tue, 4 Nov 1997 13:26:23 -0600
Reply-To:     "Nichols, David" <nichols@SPSS.COM>
Sender:       "SPSSX(r) Discussion" <SPSSX-L@UGA.CC.UGA.EDU>
From:         "Nichols, David" <nichols@SPSS.COM>
Subject:      Re: MANOVA and menus problem

The Model dialog for repeated measures has a section to build
the between subjects design and a separate one for the within
subjects design. Everything on these is then crossed. Thus, in
this case, just entering the main effects of each of the two
factors in the model gives you the full factorial.
 
David Nichols
Senior Support Statistician
SPSS Inc.
nichols@spss.com
 
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>From:  Tom Gumpel[SMTP:tgumpel9@vms.huji.ac.il]
>Sent:  Sunday, November 02, 1997 12:27 AM
>To:    SPSSX-L@UGA.CC.UGA.EDU
>Subject:       Re: MANOVA and menus problem
>
>I have searched the GLM menus and am able to calculate main effects, but am
>unable to have SPSS calculate the interatction. Is this also impossible via
>the
>menus? That seems odd, since it is a basic thing to want to calculate.
>
>David Nichols wrote:
>
>> In article <345987DA.724F3792@vms.huji.ac.il>,
>> Tom Gumpel  <tgumpel9@vms.huji.ac.il> wrote:
>> >I am conducting a simple MANOVA with one factor, whose syntax is:
>> >
>> >manova var1 var2 var3 var4 var5 by group (1,4)
>> >    /wsfactors=test(5)
>> >    /analysis(repeated)
>> >    /design.
>> >
>> >I am using v. 7.5.1 and am unable to duplicate this syntax using the
>> >Multivariate GLM menus. I get all of the information I want - except for
>> >the interaction.
>> >Am I missing something here? Perhaps this can't be done via the menus?
>> >That seems unlikely to me.
>> >
>> >Thanks.
>> >
>> >--
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>> >
>> >Cheers,
>> >
>> >
>> >Tom
>>
>> MANOVA is no longer available through the menus as of Release 7.5.
>> The GLM procedure was written as a replacement for MANOVA because
>> a number of design features in MANOVA made maintenance and
>> enhancement of it something of a nightmare. It's being maintained
>> as a syntax only procedure (like LOGLINEAR, which was replaced by
>> GENLOG as of Release 6.1 in the menus for many of the same reasons)
>> so that people who are used to it can still use it and so that they
>> can take their time in learning how to do things in GLM. No further
>> development of maintenance work is being done on MANOVA.
>>
>> --
>>
>>----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>-
>> David Nichols             Senior Support Statistician              SPSS,
>>Inc.
>> Phone: (312) 329-3684     Internet:  nichols@spss.com     Fax: (312)
>>329-3560
>>
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>Cheers,
>
>
>Tom
>