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Date:         Fri, 17 Apr 1998 16:50:53 GMT
Reply-To:     Richard F Ulrich <wpilib+@PITT.EDU>
Sender:       "SPSSX(r) Discussion" <SPSSX-L@UGA.CC.UGA.EDU>
From:         Richard F Ulrich <wpilib+@PITT.EDU>
Organization: University of Pittsburgh
Subject:      Re: L shaped distributions

michelei@msn.com : ms5079@cnsibm.albany.edu Michele Scherneck (michelei@EMAIL.MSN.COM) wrote: : We're trying to look at relationships among variables that have L-shaped : distributions (severely positively skewed and kurtotic). Does anyone : know of transformations that would be appropriate, or statistical tests : that would be most appropriate in dealing with these types of variables? : The shape appears not to be an aberration; in other words, this seems to : be the natural shape of the type of variables we're dealing with.

: Suggestions or references would be much appreciated. Many thanks.

Tests appropriate with "these type of variables"?

All you have given is the gross shape of the distributions.

If it is appropriate to do a power transformation because of the way the numbers arise (among other things, here, the larger scores must have the larger errors) then you would consider powers less than 1.0 : 1/2 (square root); "0" (log); -1 (reciprocal); etc.

If you are interested in the actual Sums or Means, then doing any transformation is not reasonable, and you are stuck with adjusting the tests you use, to emphasize robustness at the expense of power. (Reduced D.F. or use of randomization or bootstrap.)

Mosteller & Tukey is one text with a bit of discussion on when to "re-express" measures. I think my stat FAQ has other references (get there from my home page).

-- Rich Ulrich, biostatistician wpilib+@pitt.edu http://www.pitt.edu/~wpilib/index.html Univ. of Pittsburgh


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