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Date:         Thu, 16 Apr 1998 22:20:12 -0700
Reply-To:     "W. W. Viergever" <wwvierg@POP03.CA.US.IBM.NET>
Sender:       "SAS(r) Discussion" <SAS-L@UGA.CC.UGA.EDU>
From:         "W. W. Viergever" <wwvierg@POP03.CA.US.IBM.NET>
Subject:      Re: Re[2]: Stats background of a Sas programmer
Comments: To: Jack Hamilton <jack_hamilton@HCCOMPARE.COM>
In-Reply-To:  <9804168927.AA892786439@jane.hccompare.com>
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At 12:35 PM 4/16/98 -0600, Jack Hamilton wrote: >"William W. Viergever" <wwvierg@IBM.NET> wrote: > >>Been a SAS code dog since the mid 70's (econometric class in econ grad school, >>graduate work doing anti-trust stuff in meat packing, banking, and oil, then on >>to post-pre-lim's employment doing HCFA, NIH and NCJSR research, starting on >>360 boxes running MVS/MVT under Wylbur, > >Is anyone besides Stanford still using WYLBUR? I suppose Interact is >still around somewhere. >

Yup, NIH.

>>Just out of curiosity, what might you prefer to SAS for your reporting and data >>manipulation needs? > >Its object model is not satisfactory (that will get better in V7) and >its GUI creation tools are poor compared to those in Visual Basic and >various other Windows-based programs (also supposed to improve in V7). >

Jack:

These points are well taken; however, they are GUI issues.

I'd (almost<G>) bet my house that I can out-manipulate data with SAS vis-a-vis VB and other Windows apps (e.g., take "detailed" UB-92 data, pass through it, reading procedure codes and POS and TOS values to map/capture the quantity/Unit of Service (UOS) values into ICU/MS/CCU/OB/Nur/etc days and dollar buckets, capture *only* dollars from ancillary proc codes, etc., etc., then output a single record that encapsulates all relevant/desired info from the stay).

Now, being an old code dog, I may be tied to my tools too tightly {TTMTT?) (i.e., VB may manipulate *as well* as SAS>, but then, can VB do stats <g>?

Later


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