Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 11:47:12 -0600
Reply-To: Rob Rohrbough <rob@ROHRBOUGH-SYSTEMS.COM>
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From: Rob Rohrbough <rob@ROHRBOUGH-SYSTEMS.COM>
Subject: Re: Hospital revenue codes
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Karsten,
I hope I am not flaming either. I did read the PDF document. I certainly am familiar with the paper version. When I faced the same situation last fall I found it much faster to extract the codes from the hospital association's grouper software than to try to pull it out of the manual. My client may have done that to a limited extent. I left the codes editable via the application so they could. If you do have time to format them (perhaps Ted has done that while the rest of us were reading and writing), why not share the formatted list when you are finished?
Thanks,
Rob
Rob Rohrbough, Consultant Rohrbough Systems Design, Inc.
9215 Dorcas Street A SAS Institute Quality Partner
Omaha, NE 68124-2039 rob@rohrbough-systems.com
(402) 343-1493
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From: Self, Karsten [SMTP:Karsten.Self@Schwab.COM]
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 1999 11:25 AM
To: SAS-L@UGA.CC.UGA.EDU; 'Rob Rohrbough'; 'ted@U.WASHINGTON.EDU'
Subject: RE: Hospital revenue codes
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> From: Rob Rohrbough[SMTP:rob@ROHRBOUGH-SYSTEMS.COM]
> Reply To: Rob Rohrbough
> Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 1999 9:08 AM
> To: SAS-L@UGA.CC.UGA.EDU
> Subject: Re: Hospital revenue codes
>
Have you, Ted, obtained your code list? I have gotten many
responses to my previous offer from many knowledgeable souls on the "L".
This list certainly is a fertile discussion ground - that is a complement to
all of you who have responded. Several have responded to me only or to me
and the "L". I repeat some comments here, with credits and appreciation.
> 1. William Viergever pointed out the official source for the revenue codes
> as the National Uniform Billing Committee (a volunteer organization) at
> http://www.nubc.org. It is not supposed to be proprietary. Not sure why
> they don't appear to include such a list on their website - not even under
> the list of features for "subscribers only" (for pay). Perhaps we could
> e-mail the question to them. One of the PDFs at
> http://www.hcfa.gov/medicare/edi/edi5.htm or
> http://www.hcfa.gov/medicare/edi/3604.pdf included an image of the manual.
> I did not find the list in the desired format.
>
If you'll read the PDF file mentioned, you'll find a full definition of the
UB-92, including high-level definitions of most codes, and a full definition
of hospital revenue codes. I would list the specific page numbers, but I
fear insulting anyone's intelligence.
The codes are not in tabular, ready-to-program, format, but they can be
edited to this form with a modicum of effort.
> I still stand wondering why these codes are not free from a public souce
> on the Internet. My offer still stands if no other source has appeared.
> Thanks to all of you who have enlightened me too.
>
I'm a bit curious that I was able to locate the information in a matter of
minutes, whereas others cannot find it when it's placed in front of them.
The Internet may be a big place, but there are a number of valuable search
tools available. I dug for the data because it is useful to myself. I
don't feel a need to be a general research resource for SAS-L.
Apologies Rob, nothing personal. I guess I'm feeling my oats this morning.
> --
> Karsten M. Self (Karsten.Self@schwab.com)
> Trilogy Consulting
>
> What part of "gestalt" don't you understand?
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