I could respond, but I have no intention of turning this into a debate of personal opinions even if it is titled OT. I have made my points, David has made his, and you have made yours. I will leave it at that.
See you in Orlando.
"William W. Viergever" wrote:
I think what David was getting at was what my Grandmother (RIP) used to preach to me:
"If you don't have something nice to say about someone, then don't say it."
As for your opinions, they of course *are* yours, however, you might think twice about sharing 'em.
P.S. To me, your comment: "Could it be that the alternative is true, that some are too sensitive" is a bit like David Bowie's ... "puttin out fire w/ gasoline".
At 08:23 AM 3/29/2002 -0700, Stanley A. Gorodenski wrote:David,------------------------------------------------------------William W. Viergever Voice : (916) 483-8398Viergever & Associates Fax : (916) 486-1488Sacramento, CA 95825 E-mail : firstname.lastname@example.org------------------------------------------------------------
I almost deleted your message, thinking it was more spam. If I had I would
not be responding now.
It was not my intent to deride the sensitivities of those who appreciated
his comedy, and I hope no one takes offense at my comment - I do not wish to
alienate potential acquaintances or friends. I am just expressing my opinion
of Dudley Moore's comedy. Normally, if someone has an opinion, and I have a
different one, I will express it (I have become more outspoken over the
years - a sign of old age?). Now, if Dudley Moore was a personal friend or a
relative to someone, in another context (a person to person situation) I
would not say what I said. However, this is not the situation. If some feel
this is an insensitivity on my part, then maybe it is. Could it be that the
alternative is true, that some are too sensitive, given that Dudley Moore's
only contact (if you want to call it that) with them was through television
or a movie? If someone said Jack Benny wasn't a good comedian and he missed
his calling by not playing the part of a waiter, I would not feel offended.
I believe he has passed away also.
Again, it was not my intent to deride other's sensitivities. My apologies if
others took a personal offense.
"DKV-J Consultancies (Totalise)" wrote:
> Humour is a different emotion to each of us Stan, and I think it's
> probably likely that there are many people on SAS/L who did appreciate
> Dudley's work, just as you don't. It would however be a shame to deride
> the sensitivities of those who did value his work, and will miss his
> passing. Sadly, his work has been non existent since 1999, just as
> Spike Milligan had done little in public for many years.
> I feel sad for the passing of Milton Berle, although the only film of
> his I can recall at all clearly is 'mad, mad world', where I feel every
> actor in the film was gracefully and effortlessly upstaged by Spencer
> Tracy. Not being the best is not a putdown for any other actor, as the
> Academy awards prove year after year. In any case, I know of Milton's
> success as a comedian, and feel that I have not had the opportunity to
> appreciate his comedy as much as others.
> We are getting older, as someone remarked, and I am surprised to realise
> how much time has passed since some of my favourite performances were
> first recorded. My set of 6 classic Jack Benny episodes were recorded
> some forty years ago, as the youthfulness of Kirk Douglas and Fred
> MacMurray testify in that wonderful jam session they played together.
> If I could find any more, I'd treasure them, on PAL or NTSC. The
> average viewer may not know it, but he truly was a talented fiddler and
> made his early living on Vaudeville that way, as that horrid repetitive
> Kreutzer arpeggio study that became his theme suggests.
> Every Christmas my family toast absent friends. Each year someone else
> is foremost in our minds, and sometimes we have different people in
> mind, but we share an appreciation of each other's sense of loss. I
> think there might be just such a toast at a certain SUGI dinner this
> Kind regards
> Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 09:34:05 -0700
> From: "Stanley A. Gorodenski" <vvgsgor@DE.STATE.AZ.US>
> Subject: Re: OT: RIP: Milton Berle
> I'm afraid I do not feel the same about Dudley Moore as some. I feel he
> missed his calling by not playing the parts of taxi drivers, or two bit
> grubby chislers in large cities. It's anyone's opinion, and this is
> Milton Berle, though, was really great, in the same class as Sid Ceaser
> (who is still living, I believe) and Jack Benny.