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Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2002 16:46:39 -0400
From: Tom Elliott <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: RE: Pre-Suez Cannel Maps of Egypt. <fwd>
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Dear friends,

In addition to all the excellent suggestions already posted to the list, may
I also encourage interested parties to consult the Barrington Atlas of the
Greek and Roman World (R. Talbert, ed., Princeton, 2000). In particular,
there is Map 74 which covers the area of the Nile Delta and environs,
including much of the area affected by the Suez canal today. Essential too,
is consultation of that map's compiler's (A. Bernand) introduction, to be
found in the "Map-by-Map Directory" on CD-ROM or in the separate two volumes
of print, beginning on p. 1117. It discusses many of the issues affecting
Mr. Beatty's research. Some of the bibliography for the map -- also
contained in the Map-by-Map Directory -- may be of further help, for
example: J. Yoyotte, "Le Delta du Nil au temps des pharaons," L'Histoire 54
(1983) 52-62.

Considerable effort to restore landscape features to their ancient aspect
was undertaken for this map, and all available sources of information
(including earlier modern maps) were consulted as appropriate (thus,
throughout the atlas). Modern canals, dams and reservoirs were removed and,
insofar as possible, the ancient branches of the Nile were reconstructed.
Coastline change (seismic and alluvial) has been considered, as have the
effects of modern irrigation, farming, industry and civil engineering.

Care should be taken, however, for the map depicts reconstructed landscape
and culture during the period of Greek and Roman involvement in Egypt,
considerably later than the period of interest to Mr. Beatty. As a result,
landscape change earlier in antiquity may not have been addressed, and
Egyptian toponomy (and even whole earlier communities) may not appear.
Nonetheless, for some questions this map may be more helpful even than
pre-Suez-canal modern maps, because it reconstructs from all available
sources other features that had already disappeared prior to the making of
those maps, for example: the disappearance of the western-most (Kanobikos)
and eastern-most (Pelousiakos) branches of the Nile delta, perhaps as early
as the fifth century A.D.

Consultation of the neighboring maps in the atlas may also be appropriate,
depending on the area of interest.

Best,
Tom

Tom Elliott, M.A.
Director, Ancient World Mapping Center

www.unc.edu/awmc
CB#8110 5010 Davis Library
University of North Carolina
Chapel Hill, NC  27599-8110
U.S.A.

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Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2002 10:06:44 -0700
From: "Kollen, Chris" <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: FW: Pre-Suez Cannel Maps of Egypt.
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I received this message today.  We don't have anything that will help him
out.  Anyone have any ideas?  He thought about contacting the British
Library, would that be either April Carlucci or Tony Campbell?

Thanks

Chris Kollen

Chris Kollen
University of Arizona Library
P.O. Box 210055
Tucson, AZ   85721-0055
(520) 621-4869
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From: Raymond L. Beatty [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Monday, September 16, 2002 10:14 PM
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Subject: Pre-Suez Cannel Maps of Egypt.



Dear Ms Kollen,

I was recently at the library with my son searching for maps of the Suez
and lower Egypt area, particularly maps with several ancient cities and
other areas showing on the maps.  While we found several maps that
indicated some of the cities, and bodies of water that were located in
the area around Baal Zephron, Migdol and Succoth, we were unable to find
any maps with any detail of bodies of water, the cities mentioned and
especially any maps showing the type of terrain geographically that
existed before the Suez Cannel was built, which destroyed all of the
bodies of water that were there and rearranged the landscape.

My purpose in searching for this material and specifically maps of the
period between 1820 to about 1850 is to confirm research I am working on
for a book on the Exodus.  The cities I have mentioned, the bodies of
water, and in particular the location of Pihahiroth, which is near one of
the bodies of water that existed prior to Suez, is all connected and by
finding a reliable map covering all of this information, will greatly
help me in completing my research and ultimately the book I am writing
about the Exodus.

You card was given to me by one of the librarians trying to help me when
I was there and he suggested that I write you and ask you for some help.
Anything along the lines of what I have described here would be of great
help.  I should say that I have written the Library of Congress, and all
that they sent me were maps covering the construction of the Suez Cannel.
 I have considered contacting the British Museum, thinking that there
might be military maps from that period that would provide the
information I'm looking for, but I hit a dead end with their web site,
and I don't know how to get around it without talking to someone from
there.  If there are other sources available for such information that I
haven't mentioned that you are aware of, I would deeply appreciate
knowing of them.

Again, thank you for any assistance you might be able to offer.

Ray Beatty
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