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Subject: RE: Re: The first-ever computer generated atlas?]
Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 13:34:36 -0500
From: Seldin, Daniel T. <[log in to unmask]>
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There are some SYMAP based maps, but there are also quite a few hand
drawn maps in Kingsbury's Atlas of Indiana.
Daniel T. Seldin
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Subject: Re: The first-ever computer generated atlas?]
And wasn't Kingsbury's Atlas of Indiana SYMAP based?
David Cobb
At 12:33 PM 3/31/2004 -0500, you wrote:
> Hello Darius:
> Jim is quite right about the SYMAP atlases. I can remember going
> to the University's one and only computer center, feeding in my
cards, > and getting my first SYMAP map sometime in the middle 60's.
Bill Loy > did several SYMAP atlases in his work-up to the Atlas of
Oregon. These > were done for planning and teaching purposes, not for
publication. I do > not think any of Dr. Loy's SYMAP alone atlases
were published. I do > remember, and have a copy of: William G. Loy.
"A Preliminary Atlas of > Oregon." It was published by the Geography
Department, University of > Oregon, in 1972. It is a 11 by 8 ½ inch,
around 162-page, plastic > spiral bound paperback book. In the rear
pocket it has a county boundary > overlay sheet, titled 'computer
generalized map.' BUT this atlas has > both computer and
student-drafted maps, so it does not fall within the > critera.
> Several other Geographers were working with line-printer programs
> and produced maps at about that time. I have seen published
line-printer > map atlases from the University of Alabama and another
University, maybe > Oklahoma or Nebraska. In the University of Georgia
Map Collection's > holdings, after a quick search, I find Neal
Lineback's "The Map Abstract > of Criminal-Justice Information:
Alabama." University of Alabama Press, > 1976. All the maps are SYMAP
computer maps.
> Most of the SYMAP based atlases I have seen have at least one
> drafted map which is to be used as a base map.
>
> Johnnie Sutherland
> Map Collection
> University of Georgia Libraries
>
>
> James R. Carter wrote:
>
>> Darius, et.al.: I remember a number of atlases that were done with
>> SYMAP or similar line-printer programs. Now which of these if any
were >> published is another question, but I think a few such atlases
were. I >> seem to remember that some such atlases were based on a
State of the >> U.S., probably published by a geographer working at a
state university. >> Can anyone lay their hands on one of these? They
would have been done >> in the late 60's or more likely in the 70's.
>> >> And, I remember Fred Broome of the U.S. Census Bureau showing me
a >> computer generated atlas of Census data. I am guessing that would
be in >> the late 1970's. The graphics were generated in COM -
computer on >> microfilm. The thing I remember about this atlas is
that the colors did >> not come out as they wanted for in one case the
graded colors could not
>> be distinguished. But, this was published in color and in that regard
>> it was first for me.
>>
>> I find it hard to believe that 1984 was the date of the first
computer >> generated atlas. Tobler produced a computer generated
movie in the >> 70's, or earlier, and then Moellering produced his
movie of traffic >> accidents in I think the early 1970's. Both of
these were done by >> filming off Tektronics vector displays. Of
course, these were done in >> black and white--well, really in light
gray and dark gray. >> >> I draw my recollections from North America,
but I know some Europeans >> were doing good work in those early years.
>> >> I would not wager that the first computer-based atlas was as
late as >> 1984. I would think that first atlas might have been
published in the >> late 1960s. It would not have been very elegant,
but it would have been >> unique. >> >> Jim Carter >> >> At
3/30/2004, you wrote: >> >>> -------- Original Message -------- >>>
Subject: The first-ever computer generated atlas? >>> Date: Tue, 30 Mar
2004 21:56:50 +0100 >!
>> From: Bartlett, Darius <[log in to unmask]> >>> >>> >>> ------------------ >>> Dear friends, >>> >>> Please can anyone help settle a (friendly) argument I am having with a >>> colleague? We are trying to identify what was the world's first-ever >>> published atlas, where the maps were created entirely by means of >>> computerised methods? >>> >>> I remember being told, many, many years ago, that "Agriculture in >>> Ireland : >>> a census atlas" by A.A. Horner, J.A. Walsh and J.A. Williams >>> (Univesity College Dublin, Department of Geography, 1984), ISBN/ISSN >>> 0901120812, was a prime candidate for the title. My colleague thinks there >>> were almost certainly earlier ones, but which and where? >>> >>> Note we are talking here about ENTIRELY computer-generated mapping. So, by >>> this definition, Perring and Waters' "Atlas of the British Flora" >>> would not >>> count, innovative and notable as it was, because this used computers to >>> overprint c
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sses (X) corresponding to the thematic data (grid points >>> wher
on top of outline maps of Britain and >>> Ireland >>> that had been
created and printed by more traditional means. >>> >>> I look forward
to your suggestions and ideas! >>> >>> Best regards >>> >>> Darius
Bartlett >> >> >>
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