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Subject: Re: Sanborn Insurance Maps
Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 14:27:08 -0600 (MDT)
From: Laurence Creider <[log in to unmask]>
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Nancy,
If the map was dated c1927 and corrected to say 1962 and this was done by
Sanborn in issuing the corrected map, wouldn't the map reflect the 1962
situation and therefore be published in 1962? After a few years of
intermittent map cataloging, I am still learning my way. So please let me
know if I am making a baby blunder here. One could get both dates into
the publication, etc. area by using 1962,c1927 and a Date Status of t with
the two dates in the fixed fields. In my case, the indexes are the place
where the revised dates show up, but I would consider that evidence of a
later date of publication for a book as well as a map.
Of course, if the corrections were supplied by the recipient rather than
Sanborn, that would be a different situation entirely.
I want to thank everyone for their thoughts on how to deal with these
maps; you've been very helpful.
Larry Creider
Laurence S. Creider
Head, General Cataloging Unit &
Special Collections Librarian
New Mexico State University
Las Cruces, NM 88003
Work: 505-646-4707, 505-646-7227
Fax: 505-646-7477
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On Wed, 30 Apr 2008, Maps-L Moderator wrote:
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> Subject: Re: Sanborn Insurance Maps
> Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 14:03:29 -0400
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> Phil raises a point about Sanborn maps that I have wondered about in
> cataloging them -- what's the best way to note the "corrected to" date in
> the catalog record? We have done it different ways over the years for
> Sanborns and similar Bromleys, etc., most recently putting the original
> publication date in the 260 field and in the fixed field for dates, and
> adding a 500 note with a subfield 5 with our library symbol to note the
> correction date that applies to our copy. This seems to be in keeping with
> cataloging rules and practices, but on the other hand, it doesn't lend
> itself to limiting or sorting the records by the date of the information
> shown. We used to put an "[i.e. ... ]" date following the original
> publication date in the 260 subfield c to convey the "corrected to" date.
> I'm not even sure now if that helped with sorting, but it put the updated
> date in a place where one expected to find a date. On the other hand, it
> seemed to be taking liberties with the meaning of a publication date.
> Sometimes when our catalogers weren't sensitive to the existence of
> "corrected to" dates, nothing got said about them, or there were notes
> about the dates of the more prominent added index sheets. How have others
> handled this, and/or what do others suggest?
>
> Nancy A. Kandoian
> Map Cataloger
> The Lionel Pincus and Princess Firyal Map Division
> The New York Public Library
> 5th Ave. & 42nd St.
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> Subject: Re: Sanborn Insurance Maps
> Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 03:16:33 GMT
> From: Philip Hoehn <[log in to unmask]>
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> These are not on demand copies, but are hand colored (with stencils)
> lithographs.
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> The same set of maps may have been issued by Sanborn as loose map sheets or
> as atlases with ring (or other) binders.
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> I would search for copy in OCLC. If cataloging for the map set/atlas is
> found use that copy but add a note regarding specifics of your set, e.g.,
> OCLC is done as a map set, but your copy is bound as an atlas.
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> If copy is not found, I would catalog them as a map set (if loose sheets)
> or as an atlas (if bound). Although there are probably variations, in my
> experience the Sanborn Company provided the bindings, if any.
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> If it is important for your library, I would by all means make a local
> added entry for the company which leased or purchased the maps from
> Sanborn.
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> Regarding the publication date, watch out for a "corrected to" date (you
> mention paste-ons) typically appearing in a box on the first or second
> sheets.
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> Philip Hoehn, Map Librarian
> San Francisco -- [log in to unmask]
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> Subject: Sanborn Insurance Maps
> Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 13:03:42 -0600 (MDT)
> From: Laurence Creider <[log in to unmask]>
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> Our Library has a number of Sanborn insurance maps for Las Cruces, N.M.
> and one for Alamogordo, N.M. Each set of maps is colored and on sheets 65
> x 55 cm. which are folded (sometimes backed by a support) and then placed
> in a dark brown folder. There is a statement to the effect that these are
> copies made for such and such an real estate company. Each set has a
> title on the first map, a very brief title on subsequent maps which are on
> numbered sheets, and an index, which is frequently pasted on the first
> map.
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> There are a couple of questions I have about cataloging these items which
> I haven't been able to resolve by looking at how the multitudes of
> libraries have handled their copies of Sanborn maps.
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> 1) Are these copies published items? They seem to be on-demand copies,
> but I hesitate to consider them as manuscripts. The company obviously
> made many of these copies, can this be considered publishing?
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> 2) Were the maps issued in these folders or were they added by the company
> holding them.
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> 3) These maps seem to be variously treated as atlases (1 atlas (9 maps),
> several maps or 1 map on x sheets. From the fact that the title appears
> on one sheet only, I would tend to opt for the last choice.
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> 4) Has anyone made an added entry for the company for whom the set was
> made? As a special collections cataloger, I am tempted to do so for these
> local firms.
>
> Thanks in advance for any suggestions, including things I may have left
> out.
>
> Larry Creider
>
> Laurence S. Creider
> Head, General Cataloging Unit &
> Special Collections Librarian
> New Mexico State University
> Las Cruces, NM 88003
> Work: 505-646-4707, 505-646-7227
> Fax: 505-646-7477
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